[Update] The Royal Mail strike thread - Page 7

Russ · 09-10-2009, 15:09

Considering it was only announced yesterday, let's wait until the token Union leader pipes up about 'public support'.

Flyboy · 09-10-2009, 15:13

It seems that you have never considered that there may be public support. Just that you won't hear it.

09-10-2009, 15:30

Sure, because the general public just love to be inconvenienced don't they?

**Chris** · 09-10-2009, 15:30

There may be some support, but they won't be getting it from me. If the leftie barons at the top of the CWU wanted to carve out a career dictating management decisions they should have gone into managament instead of trade unionism. I wonder why they didn't.

Russ · 09-10-2009, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

It seems that you have never considered that there may be public support. Just that you won't hear it.

I'd have assumed that if anyone did support the RM then by their very definition they'd speak up and....I dunno...support them?

Flyboy · 09-10-2009, 16:13

I guess someone hasn't been reading this thread. LOL

Sirius · 09-10-2009, 17:37

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

he could use one of those other couriers that are allegedly so much more reliable than rm.

Indeed

I can remember as a young lad my father coming home to a freezing cold house during a strike and saying i will never use coal again. He had a gas fire and gas central heating installed within a week and he never did use coal again.

Would not surprise me if the same happens with Royal mail and parcel farce

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

It seems that you have never considered that there may be public support. Just that you won't hear it.

10 of us sat around a table at work today during dinner. Only one supported the strike the rest said it was bad for the customer and they had no time for the strikers.

Raistlin · 09-10-2009, 17:55

I've yet to talk to anybody about this that actually supports the strike action.

What would happen if everybody went out on strike when they didn't like amount they were paid or the way their management were running things? We'd be in a damn sight more trouble than we are now that's for sure. We don't all have the luxury of striking though, some of us have jobs where other people are depending on us to do our damn jobs and get on with what we're paid to do.....oh, wait a minute.....

Tell you what, sack the strikers and put the unemployed/recently made redundant in those jobs - I'm sure they won't complain about the pay/conditions.

papa smurf · 09-10-2009, 18:02

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Originally Posted by Rob M

I've yet to talk to anybody about this that actually supports the strike action.

What would happen if everybody went out on strike when they didn't like amount they were paid or the way their management were running things? We'd be in a damn sight more trouble than we are now that's for sure. We don't all have the luxury of striking though, some of us have jobs where other people are depending on us to do our damn jobs and get on with what we're paid to do.....oh, wait a minute.....

Tell you what, sack the strikers and put the unemployed/recently made redundant in those jobs - I'm sure they won't complain about the pay/conditions.

and we can all tug on our forelocks when the master walks past and think our selves lucky he allows us to to do his bidding.

Raistlin · 09-10-2009, 18:06

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

and we can all tug on our forelocks when the master walks past and think our selves lucky he allows us to to do his bidding.

.....and those of us that still have jobs can remember that a) we've still got jobs, b) there are a lot of people that haven't, c) we don't run the company/country, d) we're paid to do a damn job, and just get on and do it.

I'm sick of people holding me and my life to ransom just because they don't agree with the way that their life is going. If you don't like your job either put up and shut up or go and find something different. Don't inflict your problems and issues on the rest of us, and then try and claim you're doing it for the good of all and that you have the moral high ground.

ZrByte · 09-10-2009, 18:13

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Originally Posted by Rob M

.....and those of us that still have jobs can remember that a) we've still got jobs, b) there are a lot of people that haven't, c) we don't run the company/country, d) we're paid to do a damn job, and just get on and do it.

I'm sick of people holding me and my life to ransom just because they don't agree with the way that their life is going. If you don't like your job either put up and shut up or go and find something different. Don't inflict your problems and issues on the rest of us, and then try and claim you're doing it for the good of all and that you have the moral high ground.

That only applies for single instances of grievances with a company, when 2 thirds of voting union members have a problem then that just doesn't work.
Same could be said for you, if you don't like our methods, jump ship. If there is no alternative available to you use your voice and complain to RM.

Raistlin · 09-10-2009, 18:17

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Originally Posted by ZrByte

That only applies for single instances of grievances with a company, when 2 thirds of voting union members have a problem then that just doesn't work.
Same could be said for you, if you don't like our methods, jump ship. If there is no alternative available to you use your voice and complain to RM.

All it means is that 2 thirds of the voting union members believe that they're right. The fact that they believe they're right, doesn't necessarily make them so.

As for me 'jumping ship' if I don't like the strikers methods.....that's a great idea. I'll tell all the companies that send me mail that they should use an alternative mail delivery service shall I? Oh, hang on, that's right.....of course, they're not going to listen to me are they? No..... So actually I get no choice at all, the mechanisms that the RM workers are using to show their displeasure are directly affecting me and there's absolutely bugger all I can do about it - they continue to impose their will upon me, regardless of the effect that it has on me, and there's nothing I can do - I am completely at their mercy.

As for writing to RM - seriously.....they're no more likely to listen to me than the unions are.

papa smurf · 09-10-2009, 18:24

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Originally Posted by Rob M

All it means is that 2 thirds of the voting union members believe that they're right. The fact that they believe they're right, doesn't necessarily make them so.

As for me 'jumping ship' if I don't like the strikers methods.....that's a great idea. I'll tell all the companies that send me mail that they should use an alternative mail delivery service shall I? Oh, hang on, that's right.....of course, they're not going to listen to me are they? No..... So actually I get no choice at all, the mechanisms that the RM workers are using to show their displeasure are directly affecting me and there's absolutely bugger all I can do about it - they continue to impose their will upon me, regardless of the effect that it has on me, and there's nothing I can do - I am completely at their mercy.

As for writing to RM - seriously.....they're no more likely to listen to me than the unions are.

you sound like a room full of opera singers warming up me me me me me me

these people don't want to strike and lose money its the last resort .

Mr Angry · 09-10-2009, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Rob M

All it means is that 2 thirds of the voting union members believe that they're right. The fact that they believe they're right, doesn't necessarily make them so.

It's democracy - that's how it works.

Raistlin · 09-10-2009, 18:34

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

you sound like a room full of opera singers warming up me me me me me me

Well, unfortunately we now live in a society where if you don't look out for yourself nobody else is going to. If you stop watching your own back before you know it there will be some person, or some group of people, shafting you because the only thing they're thinking about is themselves.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

these people don't want to strike and lose money its the last resort .

So what were the other 'resorts' that they resorted to?