Should Virgin Media Throttle p2p traffic? - Page 6

Chrysalis · 21-04-2011, 23:02

still slow now, so could be some other reason. Dont think its to do with the london routing issues as is going via manchester.

DABhand · 22-04-2011, 06:04

I agree there should be some sort of throttling from heavy users, but to force it on everyone is pretty bad. The 75% throttling to me is pretty tough, they can easily cope with a less stringent amount if they did lower it to say 33%-50% I think most people wouldn't feel it was bad, except those who rely on grabbing their warez to sell like movies etc as an extra income they would moan about it cause they could lose out to competition in the area by others on another ISP :P

matt-h · 22-04-2011, 16:17

Its getting silly now , was slow to use messaging , invites for about a month but then it cleared up for a whole 6 days and as of last night its back to being slow again.

VM CSR/Tech arent interested and seem like they couldnt give a monkeys. This attitude is bad even for them. Now obviously all the phone staff arent like that but to be told its just me or xbl thats at faul when it isnt is insulting.

Im beginning to consider leaving especially with the likes of infinity being available here i no longer need a bt compatible phone line fitting.

pip08456 · 22-04-2011, 16:34

Even for Infinity you need a BT phone line. - Get it now! - It's free! (the phone line that is.)

matt-h · 22-04-2011, 16:39

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Even for Infinity you need a BT phone line. - Get it now! - It's free! (the phone line that is.)

Meant in terms of my phone cabling internally. For adsl they wanted to replace it all. Yeah id need to be a bt phone subscriber to but at least XBL doesnt crawl on that,

pip08456 · 22-04-2011, 16:47

Understood but a bit unclear.

I have no problems with infinity, there is a little issue for gamers using Rift and WOW ATM but they are trying to sort it.

That said VM had problems with WOW as well but blizzard are issueing a patch which seems to me it is not an ISP problem although not being an on-line gamer I don't know.

matt-h · 22-04-2011, 17:00

XBL works like a charm from what my friends that are on it say and as thats the biggest use of my connection thats what matters to me.

pip08456 · 22-04-2011, 17:50

Latency, ping and more importantly for gamers jitter will be lower.

matt-h · 22-04-2011, 22:17

Indeed which is something VM are notoriously bad for , in fact the networks been ropey since NTL took over , least round here they have

Chrysalis · 26-04-2011, 12:42

ok I been doing more testing and wanted to repeat the test over a number of days which I have now done.

It seems my slow ssl ftp transfers do indeed speed up but not after midnight instead after 2am. I taken snapshots every 5 minutes which in turn has created a messy document that I had to sort out (it formatted badly no new lines). Here is one day's data between 1.45am and 2.15am.

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1.45 port 31231 241kB/sec port 443 3665kB/sec
1.50 port 31231 905kB/sec port 443 3602kB/sec
1.55 port 31231 290kB/sec port 443 3595kB/sec
2.00 port 31231 104kB/sec port 443 3441kB/sec
2.05 port 31231 3665kB/sec port 443 3565kB/sec
2.10 port 31231 3615kB/sec port 443 3699kB/sec
2.15 port 31231 3660kB/sec port 443 3487kB/sec

starbug · 27-04-2011, 17:28

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

That's not how it works, XBL traffic should have the same priority as HTTP at all times, if it doesn't that is a fault.

VM obviously have problems with a lot of traffic being unidentified and falling into the same class as P2P / NNTP meanwhile NNTP over SSL from well known sources continues to enjoy unimpeded access.

Poor configuration and the shaping hardware not working as advertised.

My NNTP over SSL to giganews is now being throttled to the same speeds as if over port 119.

*******s

**Hugh** · 27-04-2011, 18:18

Do not use words that invoke the swear filter - this is against site T&Cs.

starbug · 27-04-2011, 20:51

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Do not use words that invoke the swear filter - this is against site T&Cs.

lol

Ignitionnet · 27-04-2011, 20:59

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Originally Posted by starbug

My NNTP over SSL to giganews is now being throttled to the same speeds as if over port 119.

*******s

Goodo. Working as intended now.

Brian Hertz · 27-04-2011, 23:42

No, of course they shouldn't.
They shouldn't filter or ban anything.

In 'the ideal world' their infrastructure should be suitable to cope with the demands of their subscribers, anticipating that they all might actually use the bandwidth they're paying for (yeah, I know, "up to" etc.... shut up!).

There are already daily traffic quotas in place for the lower tiers.
How any paying customer uses his or her quota should be their own business, besides which, isn't bittorrent usage in decline anyway?