Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!

[TehTech]

Originally Posted by Mick

I will correct those people who consistantly spout rubbish when it has been proven that VM BB is a much better product than Sky BB.

Oh joy, VM's #1 fanboy!

Just been reading back on some of your previous posts Mick, and I have to say that I FEEL that if any normal member was to act like you you have in the past, the'd be banned quicker than they could say "I.P. ban"

Im sorry if this post offends you, but as freedom of speech is at an all-time high here recently, just thought I'd have my say, no need to be offended or angry, after all, this is just my oppionion and if you dont value that as much, then it should not turn into much!

Peace out!

[boroboi]

Originally Posted by Mick

Not everyone has to call them in a month - And they are good enough to refund the cost of the call if you ask them to.

I havent phoned CS or TS in over 5 years.

My service has been excellent.

[Sirius]

VM CAN be hell on earth.


I have over the last year had a period of complete and utter crap when it comes to broadband from VM. It took them nearly 5 months to sort an over subscription problem and 3 letters of complaint to the Chief Executives office.

My service on the whole is fine now and i have been given assurances that it will stay that way. I don't like ADSL or its derivatives "i have a very good knowledge of both ADSL and CABLE having worked on both at a high level including fault finding and installation/commissioning".

VM's biggest problem is that they tend to push the self destruct button from time to time, IE

Releasing upgrades before the network is ready for them.

They are about to SPY on your every move on the Internet "which will send me to the ADSL camp even when i know how crap it can be".

They don't have and don't care about linear HD,

VM need to start to listen to their customers instead of sitting in an ivory tower watching the world go by through sound proof windows.

VM could be the ultimate when it comes to Broadband but they keep letting ADSL company's get the jump on them with products at prices to GO and in variants that VM cannot match because they don't listen the needs of there customers.

So which would i have

Cable every time except if they introduce this Spying on us then i will have to bite my lip and go with a product the is inferior in my eyes but is not leaking my every move to a spy-ware company




Not bad for a Saturday Afternoon

Originally Posted by TehTech

Oh joy, VM's #1 fanboy!

Just been reading back on some of your previous posts Mick, and I have to say that I FEEL that if any normal member was to act like you you have in the past, the'd be banned quicker than they could say "I.P. ban"

Im sorry if this post offends you, but as freedom of speech is at an all-time high here recently, just thought I'd have my say, no need to be offended or angry, after all, this is just my oppionion and if you dont value that as much, then it should not turn into much!

Peace out!

Careful, the word you put between "#1" and "!" is one of the provocative words on this forum.

[TehTech]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Careful, the word you put between "#1" and "!" is one of the provocative words on this forum.

lol I wasnt aware this would cause much offence at all

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by TehTech

lol I wasnt aware this would cause much offence at all

Oh take my word for it you will be sent to hell for that one

Originally Posted by TehTech

Oh joy, VM's #1 fanboy!

I disagree that I am one of them - I have made my share of criticisms of them over the years - but I will defend a product where certain facts exist and I shouldn't be classed as one of the above just because I am do defend certain facts about any one company. At the end of the day - This is a Cable orientated website.

Originally Posted by TehTech

Just been reading back on some of your previous posts Mick, and I have to say that I FEEL that if any normal member was to act like you you have in the past, the'd be banned quicker than they could say "I.P. ban"

No they wouldn't - You see I know how to conduct myself in threads and stay confined within the rules which I will repeat, I haven't broken. Yes I am quite openly discussing my view on this - but its not against the rules okay.

[Hauzer]

I purchased NTL internet, phone and TV while it was still NTL. I purchased 2MB internet speed. Now it's Virgin Media and I still have 2MB internet speed, but it never downloads anything close to that.

The max. speed it downloads at is 240KBps.

[CT2kX]

sky tried to put a 16mb connection to my line for about 4 months, they said it would not work, they tried 8mb, they said it would not work, i went to orange, they got the net online within a week, although they sucked and the connection speed was pathetic (600k connection on an upto 8mb package, even though my line could handle upto 5.5mb, but thats a whole diff story) so i went to virgin, best move ever, alot faster than orange n more reliable than sky

but thats just my experience, ive had nothing but bother from adsl, but cable has never failed me once.


oh, and Hauzer, 240kbp/s is actually ok for a 2mb line, 2mb is the connection, not the download rate, if you want 2mb download rate, you need a 20mb line (or around that size anyway)

Originally Posted by CT2kX

sky tried to put a 16mb connection to my line for about 4 months, they said it would not work, they tried 8mb, they said it would not work, i went to orange, they got the net online within a week, although they sucked and the connection speed was pathetic (600k connection on an upto 8mb package, even though my line could handle upto 5.5mb, but thats a whole diff story) so i went to virgin, best move ever, alot faster than orange n more reliable than sky

but thats just my experience, ive had nothing but bother from adsl, but cable has never failed me once.


oh, and Hauzer, 240kbp/s is actually ok for a 2mb line, 2mb is the connection, not the download rate, if you want 2mb download rate, you need a 20mb line (or around that size anyway)

Are you getting your Mb and your MB mixed up?

I have a 4MB line, and consistently get 3.86Mb/s (485MB/s) on downloads.

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Are you getting your Mb and your MB mixed up?

I have a 4MB line, and consistently get 3.86Mb/s (485MB/s) on downloads.

Quick way to solve this.. Hauzer perform a speed test above and post the results in this thread if you will please.

[TheBlueRaja]

Originally Posted by Mick

No they wouldn't - You see I know how to conduct myself in threads and stay confined within the rules which I will repeat, I haven't broken. Yes I am quite openly discussing my view on this - but its not against the rules okay.

Yet he's now suspended, you still haven't justified ANY of your views and your still claiming that your defending a product "where certain facts exist" but yet don't provide ANY of these facts or justifications for your opinions to back up your claim.

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

Yet he's now suspended,

Well he did use the forbidden word but he got suspended because of other offences which totted up his Infraction points. It wasn't me who acted on him anyway. Infact why I am telling you this? It's none of your business. - But for your information, I didn't use the forbidden word, so don't know what your complaining about yet again.

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

you still haven't justified ANY of your views and your still claiming that your defending a product "where certain facts exist" but yet don't provide ANY of these facts or justifications for your opinions to back up your claim.

I don't need to justify anything to you - I could say I am playing by your rules, i.e You defend Sky to the hills and cast them off as facts, so nothing you have said convinces me either, we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. But the fact remains technologically, Cable is better than ADSL any day, end of story.

[TheBlueRaja]

Originally Posted by Mick

Well he did use the forbidden word but he got suspended because of other offences which totted up his Infraction points. Infact why I am telling you this? It's none of your business. - But for your information, I didn't use the forbidden word, so don't know what your complaining about yet again.



I don't need to justify anything to you - I could say I am playing by your rules, i.e You defend Sky to the hills and cast them off as facts, so nothing you have said convinces me either, we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. But the fact remains technologically, Cable is better than ADSL any day, end of story.

Like i've said on 3 occasions now - prove it.

Right throughout this thread i have provided links to the facts i have been discussing to back up my claims and justify what i have said, but you've provided nothing other than claims and doing exactly what you've done above, simply state a supposition and then claim you don't have to justify it.

Everyone in this thread is welcome to look back through and verifty what i say.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Mick

Well he did use the forbidden word

Great. We have forbidden words. Well done CF