online gaming and NTL

[[PTG] ]-[00T]

Being completely new to this forum, yes...yes I did miss that thread.
Thanks for posting it though dude and saving me a lot of wasted time and energy.
I'll guess I'll try that link you provided now then Hammered

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HA HA!! Having checked out that site I have found that there is one less than a mile from my current address.
Living in a ridiculously busy city DOES have it's advantages after all.
BT Wholesale ADSL/SDSL informationADSL status:EnabledADSL enable date:31 Mar 2000 ADSL prereg:0 (+0 duplicates)SDSL status:EnabledSDSL enable date:14 Feb 2005ADSL Max status:RFS date setADSL Max enable date:31 Mar 2006 (Tentative)

This is the availability at my address
You can receive 2Mbps ADSLYou can receive 1Mbps ADSLYou can receive 512Kbps ADSLYou can receive 256Kbps ADSL

So ADSL max should be coming soon and I can currently get 2mb. Cool

[[PTG] ]-[00T]

Having not been able to change my isp (cos I'm moving soon-ish and I'll wait til then) I just got out of a clan match - having been disconnected twice during the game, 2 other connections problems and a ping spiking from 30 to 250+ (surprise surprise - we lost which is why i am so angry but thats because I cant play this game with a fps of 2, understandably , i'm sure you'd agree.

ntl, you suck!! I mean really suck!!!

I've never known such incomptence in all my life - how can anybody seriously give you an award for best isp with a straight face??

[Redwolf]

Hello All,

I've been reading through this thread with interest. I started getting connection issues with NTL about 3 weeks ago like a lot of you. I play FarCry online and also CoD. I've got a trace route to the server I play on here:-

Tracing route to 80.68.46.150 over a maximum of 30 hops



1 22 ms 5 ms 5 ms 10.99.128.1

2 6 ms 5 ms 14 ms lutn-t2cam1-a-v122.inet.ntl.com [Ip Removed cos it's redwolfs [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] ]

3 19 ms 6 ms 19 ms lutn-t2core-a-ge-wan64.inet.ntl.com [213.107.47.89]

4 14 ms 6 ms 7 ms pop-bb-a-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.61]

5 7 ms 20 ms 8 ms nth-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.13]

6 14 ms 8 ms 8 ms nth-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.117]

7 9 ms 28 ms 11 ms gfd-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.98]

8 12 ms 26 ms 23 ms redb-ic-1-as0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.138]

9 11 ms 12 ms 18 ms rt1.xantara.net [217.79.160.63]

10 19 ms 11 ms 12 ms sw2.mer.xantara.net [80.68.47.212]

11 * * * Request timed out.

12 11 ms 13 ms 12 ms 80.68.46.150

Trace complete.

Can anyone see an obvious answer within this trace route as to the cause of my problems or is just saturation of the network as previously stated in this thread. NTL technical support are useless, I've been on the phone to India for about 4 hours in total trying to resolve this issue, they also managed to upgrade me to 10mb I got a new modem out of them though but that didn't help. I'm connected directly to the modem from my PC. When I test my speed on NTL's speed test page it varies wildly

Thanks in advance for any help

Kind Regards

John

[carlingman]

Originally Posted by Redwolf

Hello All,

I've been reading through this thread with interest. I started getting connection issues with NTL about 3 weeks ago like a lot of you. I play FarCry online and also CoD. I've got a trace route to the server I play on here:-

Tracing route to 80.68.46.150 over a maximum of 30 hops



1 22 ms 5 ms 5 ms 10.99.128.1

2 6 ms 5 ms 14 ms lutn-t2cam1-a-v122.inet.ntl.com [Ip Removed cos it's redwolfs ]

3 19 ms 6 ms 19 ms lutn-t2core-a-ge-wan64.inet.ntl.com [213.107.47.89]

4 14 ms 6 ms 7 ms pop-bb-a-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.61]

5 7 ms 20 ms 8 ms nth-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.13]

6 14 ms 8 ms 8 ms nth-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.117]

7 9 ms 28 ms 11 ms gfd-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.98]

8 12 ms 26 ms 23 ms redb-ic-1-as0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.138]

9 11 ms 12 ms 18 ms rt1.xantara.net [217.79.160.63]

10 19 ms 11 ms 12 ms sw2.mer.xantara.net [80.68.47.212]

11 * * * Request timed out.

12 11 ms 13 ms 12 ms 80.68.46.150

Trace complete.

Can anyone see an obvious answer within this trace route as to the cause of my problems or is just saturation of the network as previously stated in this thread. NTL technical support are useless, I've been on the phone to India for about 4 hours in total trying to resolve this issue, they also managed to upgrade me to 10mb I got a new modem out of them though but that didn't help. I'm connected directly to the modem from my PC. When I test my speed on NTL's speed test page it varies wildly

Thanks in advance for any help

Kind Regards

John

Hi John,

Firstly to Cable Forum.

No doubt someone with more knowledge will be along shortly but at first glance the trace rt appears fine until it leaves the NTL Network.

I am hoping NTL did not suggest upgrading to 10mb will cure your gaming issues

[Redwolf]

Well from what I've read the ping times are fine and the request time out is only because the server I was pinging is protected. I'm just at a loss because it's made gaming totally unplayable from me for 3 weeks now.

I tried switching to BT Broadband and they messed around so much then told me they had to downgrade my line 1mb I told them shove it

Thanks for the welcome by the way

[[PTG] ]-[00T]

Hi mate - I have no idea about pc's tbh.
All i know is when I am playing BF2 my ping starts at around 30 - and spikes to 250+!!!!

What is the upload for the 2mb connection?? anybody know?? I tried to find it on the ntl webpages but there about as useful as a rubber hammer. thx

[jtwn]

Rubber Hammers are actually useful; they are called mallets

Upload is 200k on 2mb.

[[PTG] ]-[00T]

In my minds eye I was thinking more of a floppy rubber chicken, but a hammer.....nevermind.

Thx for the prompt response mate.

[Redwolf]

The strange thing for me is that my ping in-game is usually 15 or even 8 on our home server, never do I see it spike, I don't get any packet loss according to the game and yet I still lag like crazy

[[PTG] ]-[00T]

lol the first thing the lads in my clan said when I was getting lag was "is your isp ntl??"

So it seems we are not alone mate.
Even with the ping spike, which seems to go on until about 11pm I can play pretty well, but during match time around 8pm, I'm lagging so bad I am shooting a guy - then all of a sudden I am facing the other way shooting at nothing. I promptly get killed and very p*ssed off.
we lost our match tonight cos I lagged out and drove 3 of us into the river while I was trying to cross a bridge - they were not amused. Suffice to say I was livid.
I'm going to move to sweden 30mb download

[Redwolf]

I've just performed the test on giganews with following results:-

news.giganews.com

1 gw-vlan201.dca.giganews.com (216.196.98.1) 177 ms 1 ms 14 ms
2 ge1-25.fr1.iad.llnw.net (69.28.156.173) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
3 pop1-ash-G2-2-0.atdn.net (66.185.139.109) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
4 bb1-ash-P0-0.atdn.net (66.185.144.192) 0 ms 1 ms 0 ms
MPLS Label=34 CoS=0 TTL=127 S=0
5 bb1-vie-P11-0.atdn.net (66.185.152.99) 153 ms 198 ms 1 ms
MPLS Label=233 CoS=0 TTL=127 S=0
6 bb1-prs-S1-2-0.atdn.net (66.185.152.42) 81 ms 81 ms 81 ms
MPLS Label=103968 CoS=0 TTL=127 S=0
7 bb2-log-S1-2-0.atdn.net (66.185.152.59) 83 ms 80 ms 80 ms
MPLS Label=100032 CoS=0 TTL=127 S=0
8 pop2-log-S1-0-0.atdn.net (66.185.134.115) 80 ms 80 ms 79 ms
9 NTL.atdn.net (66.185.140.26) 84 ms 84 ms 84 ms
10 gb-lth-c-r2-pos00.inet.ntl.com (80.1.209.222) 84 ms 84 ms 84 ms
11 gb-ldk-c-r1-pos150.inet.ntl.com (80.1.209.121) 84 ms 84 ms 86 ms
12 pop-ic-1-ge-030-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.184.253) 89 ms 84 ms 84 ms
13 pop-bb-a-ge-120-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.184.242) 84 ms 109 ms 84 ms
14 lutn-t2core-a-pos71.inet.ntl.com (213.105.174.62) 85 ms 86 ms 85 ms
15 lutn-cache-12.server.ntli.net (62.252.64.33) 86 ms 86 ms 87 ms

news-europe.giganews.com

1 216-196-110-1.ams.giganews.com (216.196.110.1) 175 ms 0 ms 5 ms
2 * * *
3 so-0-0-0.lon11.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.80.41) 5 ms so-0-0-1-0.lon11.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.81.217) 6 ms so-0-0-0.lon11.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.80.41) 5 ms
4 * * *
5 pop-bb-b-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.184.5) 6 ms 7 ms 6 ms
6 lee-bb-a-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.237) 12 ms 60 ms 12 ms
7 nth-bb-b-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.101) 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms
8 lutn-t2core-b-pos31.inet.ntl.com (62.253.188.190) 17 ms 16 ms 19 ms
9 lutn-cache-12.server.ntli.net (62.252.64.33) 17 ms 19 ms 16 ms

What does it all mean

[jtwn]

Originally Posted by [PTG] ]-[00T

lol the first thing the lads in my clan said when I was getting lag was "is your isp ntl??"

Maybe because they are the single biggest ISP.

[hammered]

Well, I have to say...

Hat's off to NTL... My gaming problem is now sorted...

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Yes, that's right it's sorted...








I just don't bother anymore...

[Rone]

Originally Posted by jtwn

Maybe because they are the single biggest ISP.

And also one of the worst, atm.

[[PTG] ]-[00T]

Originally Posted by Rone

And also one of the worst, atm.

Exactly - gaming = lag.
is the answer i got.
What was your gaming problem and how did they fix it Hammered??