Marks and Spencer - incompetent web design muppets

[handyman]

Originally Posted by Nikko

You can't have your cake and eat IT

worthy of the nug himself.

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by handyman

worthy of the nug himself.

Thanks.

In fairness, you seem to be a bit of a Joker yourself.

[Gareth]

Considering how bad (financially speaking) M&S were doing not so long ago, you'd think they'd be looking to get as many customers as possible

Also, can anyone tell me how I can use IE on my Linux boxes?

Finally, Chris, after your success with M&S, I'd recommend you NOT read this article

Me I'd never pay M&S prices anyway because at the end of the day they aren't really that special.

There is specialist cake shop in my town that does make cakes to order and I go there for special occasions where I can get a unique design for similar prices.They will attempt just about anything.

I dunno if they are online though and whether they have browser issues either.

[handyman]

Originally Posted by Gareth

Finally, Chris, after your success with M&S, I'd recommend you NOT read this article

ha ha
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Originally Posted by Gareth

Also, can anyone tell me how I can use IE on my Linux boxes?

would this help?

http://www.winehq.com/

[Millay]

Been floating round this thread for a while and its interesting reading the different views, here is my view

Q) Anyone who uses another browser should realise that IE should be used in any eventuality of something going wrong.

A) Do Apple, Linux, Embedded users need to head this.

Q) FF latest version renders the page correctly.

A) It does not, Although legible and quite usable, objects are not aligned correctly.

Q) There are so many browsers out there it is impossible to make it work on every one available.

A) Go for the closest denominator, If you design a site properly it will render on any browser you want without to much problem, especially as the M&S site is pretty straight forward.

Q) People who use other browsers realise that there are problems unless you use IE.

A) The only problems are caused by developing solely for IE, if you stick to standards it will render in any browser, and some people can not use IE!

Q) If a store decides to be accessible in only one browser it is there choice its up to them if they want to lose business.

A) No it is not! It is a legal requirement that a website is accessible by people with disabilities, if your site is designed to allow this then it will work in any browser. Check the following link:

http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups..._legaldda.hcsp

I know this may annoy some people but I have a hard struggle weekly persuading my customers to leave behind Flash intros etc and going for accessibility, the good thing is once they listen, they always get better traffic.. google et al treat you better...

[basa]

Originally Posted by handyman

They have made sure ff works, as posted version 1.5 rendered the page fine.
There must be loads of different version of these 'new' browsers. There will be bugs with them. Its possible that you would not want to test on every single one of them.

That aside its definatly a fault of the code as its not complient. But it does only crash some versions of ff and not others. ie and opera work fine.

Seems to be a recurrent theme here:

• Works with IE
• Works with Opera
• Works with FF 1.5
• Doesn't work with FF 1.0.4
• Doesn't work with FF 1.0.7

Suggest avoid FF 1.0.4 and 1.0.7 (or at least until they get them to work).

i.e. it seems FF is at fault not M&S site.