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Old 25-09-2005, 11:52   #61
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To all the disbelievers and "Bloke in the Pub" knockers please read this http://www.ispreview.co.uk/cgi-bin/n...VuAVputhUaQfeW
and then just remember that what TeleWest does today ntl does tomorrow, and also remember that you only get the ground breaking news first from the "Bloke in the Pub".

oh ye of little faith.
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Old 25-09-2005, 11:55   #62
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

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To all the disbelievers and "Bloke in the Pub" knockers please read this http://www.ispreview.co.uk/cgi-bin/n...VuAVputhUaQfeW
and then just remember that what TeleWest does today ntl does tomorrow, and also remember that you only get the ground breaking news first from the "Bloke in the Pub".

oh ye of little faith.

Sounds like another "bloke in the pub" where is the official Telewest press release?
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Old 25-09-2005, 11:56   #63
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To all the disbelievers and "Bloke in the Pub" knockers please read this http://www.ispreview.co.uk/cgi-bin/n...VuAVputhUaQfeW
and then just remember that what TeleWest does today ntl does tomorrow, and also remember that you only get the ground breaking news first from the "Bloke in the Pub".

oh ye of little faith.
Just make sure guys when you read this, That you read the znet story completely then make up your mind on how long this will take. This entails a complete change of software, ubr cards, requires that there be no or little analogue as the extra bandwidth will come from this area. In other words complete upgrade of the complete system and the turning off of the analogue system and upgrade of any customers still on analogue to digital. One other point ---- the DOCSIS3 standard is no ratified anywhere yet and has never been rolled out by anyone on a live network.
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Doesn't sound like too much more work than switching from ADSL to ADSL2+. Analogue will be switched off around that time anyway.
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Old 25-09-2005, 12:07   #65
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Doesn't sound like too much more work than switching from ADSL to ADSL2+. Analogue will be switched off around that time anyway.
And i take it you have a good idea of the network and all its systems and components ? BTW Telewest are only quoting London by 2006 ?
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Just make sure guys when you read this, That you read the znet story completely then make up your mind on how long this will take. This entails a complete change of modems, software, ubr cards, requires that there be no or little analogue as the extra bandwidth will come from this area. In other words complete upgrade of the complete system .
I guess you had better prepare yourself for some serious overtime , don't let the "Bloke in the Pub" down Bill C.
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Old 25-09-2005, 12:14   #67
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I guess you had better prepare yourself for some serious overtime , don't let the "Bloke in the Pub" down Bill C.
1 i work for NTL not Telewest.
2 Have you seen that Telewest are only talking about London by 2006. There network in London is small compared with some of there areas
3 when i see Ntl announce this then i will start to think of overtime .

The bit about there 10 meg service makes for interesting reading. Scotland first. Then London in the new year. Followed by the rest of the country over the next 12 months .
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Old 25-09-2005, 12:26   #68
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1 i work for NTL not Telewest.
I think we all know that you are a main part of the ntl foundations.
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2 Have you seen that Telewest are only talking about London by 2006. There network in London is small ?.
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3 when i see Ntl announce this then i will start to think of overtime .
I don't think you will have to wait too long for the "official" announcement, that is if you don't really know already.
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And i take it you have a good idea of the network and all its systems and components ? BTW Telewest are only quoting London by 2006 ?
ADSL2+ has been rolled out in London first, it would be quite a shocker if they rolled out the whole country on the same day.
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Old 25-09-2005, 13:00   #70
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ADSL2+ has been rolled out in London first, it would be quite a shocker if they rolled out the whole country on the same day.


And Pigs will fly. My exchange is not ready for ADSL2+ yet and its only 5 days to October which is the day its supposed to happen ?. So i think that will not happen. Every exchange in the country on the same day. Never going to happen, Do you realise how many exchanges you are talking about.
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I don't think you will have to wait too long for the "official" announcement, that is if you don't really know already.
My point about this is that Customers should not get there hopes up that this is just around the corner it's NOT. It will come i am sure but it needs a lot of overtime and upgrades to the network and systems before this can be seen in the wild. The DOCSIS3 standard is not ratified anywhere yet so correct me if i am wrong but there is noway that they would use the DOCSIS3 standard till it is. NTL have been shot down for releasing info to early this is just the same but from Telewest instead and you can bet the Telewest lovers will say what a good thing it is and how forward thinking they are to release this now a year before it might be available therefor giving people pleanty of time to go out a buy a 100 meg card
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And Pigs will fly. My exchange is not ready for ADSL2+ yet and its only 5 days to October which is the day its supposed to happen ?. So i think that will not happen. Every exchange in the country on the same day. Never going to happen, Do you realise how many exchanges you are talking about.
I'm not quite sure what your point is? Maybe I should have said London is in the process of being rolled out first. And I'm aware the whole country won't be rolled out in one day, hence why I posted as such.
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Old 25-09-2005, 13:44   #72
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ADSL2+ has been rolled out in London first, it would be quite a shocker if they rolled out the whole country on the same day.
So which part does not say whole country ?. I take that post as you trying to hint they might do the whole country on the same day which will never happen.
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So which part does not say whole country ?. I take that post as you trying to hint they might do the whole country on the same day which will never happen.
How does "it would be quite a shocker if they rolled out the whole country on the same day." imply I think it would/should happen in 1 day?
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Re: "Bloke in the Pub" says "Stick with ntl"

he said 'it would be quite a shocker if they rolled out the whole country on the same day.'

I think the clue may be in the 'it would be quite a shocker'
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Old 25-09-2005, 13:52   #75
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How does "it would be quite a shocker if they rolled out the whole country on the same day." imply I think it would/should happen in 1 day?
In that case how is it that everyone seems to think that NTL can do it. Just read the posts where users complain because they dont have 10 meg yet.
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