ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

[Hans Gruber]

Originally Posted by Mal

Well, if you're in a ntl area, you won't get telewest.

My original point was that the 24m service isn't available to all, which was contrary to the other poster's post, i.e. they were rolling it out to everyone before ntl.

Well if you quote me it's hard to tell you're refering to someone else

My point was pretty much every service isn't available to everyone.

[Downloads]

I'm sorry people living in UK Online areas outside of London are having an absolute laugh if they think they will get 24meg. So lets not even talk like this is being offered outside of London. NTL will be launching to all areas and to far more people. Be Broadband, UK Online and such others are dealing with peanuts in terms of numbers.

Originally Posted by gruff_rhodes

I'm sorry people living in UK Online areas outside of London are having an absolute laugh if they think they will get 24meg. So lets not even talk like this is being offered outside of London. NTL will be launching to all areas and to far more people. Be Broadband, UK Online and such others are dealing with peanuts in terms of numbers.

Glad to see some can talk sensibly instead of jumping on this announcement like its the end for Ntl. I will eat my hat if this is available in my area before i get 10 meg from NTL.

[AndrewJ]

Originally Posted by gruff_rhodes

I'm sorry people living in UK Online areas outside of London are having an absolute laugh if they think they will get 24meg. So lets not even talk like this is being offered outside of London. NTL will be launching to all areas and to far more people. Be Broadband, UK Online and such others are dealing with peanuts in terms of numbers.

Well said.
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Originally Posted by Bill C

Glad to see some can talk sensibly instead of jumping on this announcement like its the end for Ntl. I will eat my hat if this is available in my area before i get 10 meg from NTL.

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Originally Posted by Saxodriver

Well said.
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[rogerdraig]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal
Quick question...

How many of the above are available to everyone and if not, when?

Just that at least one of those mentioned is in the London area only and I can't say about the others.

Originally Posted by Bill C

And just to add to that where and how far from the exchange

hmmm take it your pointing out that ntl will offer this to every one not just those near an exchange


well maybe you can tell a load of newport residents who cant get ntl even though most are only a street away from some who can

Originally Posted by rogermevans

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal
Quick question...

How many of the above are available to everyone and if not, when?

Just that at least one of those mentioned is in the London area only and I can't say about the others.





hmmm take it your pointing out that ntl will offer this to every one not just those near an exchange


well maybe you can tell a load of newport residents who cant get ntl even though most are only a street away from some who can

Well what are you on about.

I asked how far from the exchange to get 24 meg from ukonline. I was not saying anything about NTL doing this

I suggest you go back and read this again before you take another cheap swipe at me.

As for this

well maybe you can tell a load of newport residents who cant get ntl even though most are only a street away from some who can

I don't know what planet your on but what the hell does that have to do with me other than you getting a cheap thrill from having a dig for no reason.

[Mal]

Originally Posted by rogermevans

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal
Quick question...

How many of the above are available to everyone and if not, when?

Just that at least one of those mentioned is in the London area only and I can't say about the others.





hmmm take it your pointing out that ntl will offer this to every one not just those near an exchange


well maybe you can tell a load of newport residents who cant get ntl even though most are only a street away from some who can

I didn't say that ntl would be offering it every single customer, regardless of problems. Just that the ones mentioned weren't exactly available to all, which was the impression that the other poster gave about the 24meg.

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by Mal

I didn't say that ntl would be offering it every single customer, regardless of problems. Just that the ones mentioned weren't exactly available to all, which was the impression that the other poster gave about the 24meg.

i was pointing out niether can say they can

[Stuart]

However, the 10 meg upgrade is being launched nationally. Any unbundled ADSL ISP will only launch in the most profitable areas, and may or may not launch in other areas. For instance, I can get 2 meg from most ISPs, or 4 meg from Homechoice on my BT line. This is despite me living about 300 meters away from the exchange. I cannot get any planned dates for further upgrades from any ISP..

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

However, the 10 meg upgrade is being launched nationally. Any unbundled ADSL ISP will only launch in the most profitable areas, and may or may not launch in other areas. For instance, I can get 2 meg from most ISPs, or 4 meg from Homechoice on my BT line. This is despite me living about 300 meters away from the exchange. I cannot get any planned dates for further upgrades from any ISP..

hmm most profitale areas only i see

that explains it there must be some othere reason other than profit that ntl cant cable up a number of my friends who have all the pipes in the street but no cable then

oh and at least two are not much futher than your 300m from a nice green box

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by Scopeuk

no slander intened on ntl but spin such as you can have 10 mb braud band for less than £20 works better than we have the least congested international pipes avaliable.

of course.

[Scopeuk]

bit behind i know but wasent there someone erlier bet this whould reach 700 posts

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by rogermevans

that explains it there must be some othere reason other than profit that ntl cant cable up a number of my friends who have all the pipes in the street but no cable then

oh and at least two are not much futher than your 300m from a nice green box

There could be many reasons, but profit is probably part of it (especially if it's gonna cost a lot of money to cable the two streets.

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

However, the 10 meg upgrade is being launched nationally. Any unbundled ADSL ISP will only launch in the most profitable areas, and may or may not launch in other areas. For instance, I can get 2 meg from most ISPs, or 4 meg from Homechoice on my BT line. This is despite me living about 300 meters away from the exchange. I cannot get any planned dates for further upgrades from any ISP..

almost, NTL have chosen not to broadband up some of their areas they consider not financially viable.

End of the day there is good and bad things about each situation.

ukonline will probably initially only have 24mbit in london and then eventually rollout to all of its llu exchanges, 24mbit will probably only be possible when you are under 2km to the exchange and using the right server's to download off, it is much more a PR thing then anything else.

Likewise on NTL they are promoting their 10mbit to get their sales, but in the meantime they are pushing up their contention ratios and their external pipes get congested also making 10mbit a hard target to reach, the advantage with ntl of course distance is much less a factor, just providing you get lucky on the postcode lottery and have a good ubr and you dont use usa sites you have a good chance of using your full 10mbit. The uncapped service will probably be lower speeds anyway so the only users on the 10mbit will be low to medium users making it much more less likely it will be pushed.