President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
09-03-2018, 17:55
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09-03-2018, 18:19
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So it's not a good thing that unemployment is down to 4.1% based on the figures you've supplied.
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09-03-2018, 23:23
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So it's not a good thing that unemployment is down to 4.1% based on the figures you've supplied.
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You must have missed my post on the previous page.
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The fact that more people are in work is worth celebrating.
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10-03-2018, 11:41
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President Trump issues his second full and unconditional Presidential Pardon last night, to the Navy Sailor who was sentenced to jail for taking pictures of a Submarine engine room, that was considered Classified. Kristian Saucier, 31, was sentenced to jail but released after 1 year and was put under house arrest. His conviction and subsequent criminal record, together with the house arrest conditions, prevented him from obtaining a worthy career and his veteran benefits were stopped, causing him severe financial problems.
He applied for a Pardon last year, but was denied, his hopes were rekindled when Trump tweeted recently comparing ‘Crooked Hillary’ s email scandal’ where classified emails were mishandled but the FBI had given her a free pass so she was able to run for presidency. But they indict a Navy Sailor for mishandling and illegal distribution of Classified material, by sharing photos of the Submarine engine room with his family.
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10-03-2018, 12:00
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I think Trump has done the right thing here as there was no malicious intent.
No doubt he will be pounced upon by those who find fault with everything he does.
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11-03-2018, 10:39
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http://thehill.com/policy/internatio...d-be-behind-us
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Russian President Vladimir Putin suggested in a new interview that people with different ethnicities who hold Russian citizenship could be behind interference in the 2016 U.S. election.
Putin told NBC News in an interview that the U.S. was refusing to work with Russia on cybersecurity and “instead throws 13 Russians to the media.”
“Maybe they are not even Russians, but Ukrainians, Tatars or Jews, but with Russian citizenship, which should also be checked,” Putin said.
“Maybe they have dual citizenship or a green card, maybe the U.S. paid them for this. How can you know that? I do not know, either,” he added...
...Putin said during the interview that he “couldn’t care less” if Russians had interfered in the U.S. election, claiming those indicted by special counsel Robert Mueller weren’t connected to the Kremlin.
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Imagine our surprise when, in a few weeks time, the FSB uncover a plot by dual-nationality Russian citizens (some of them Jewish) that shows they were hacking the US election - they will probably be shot whilst trying to escape, as well...
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12-03-2018, 06:24
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I take it more as Putin knows there is proof of Russian interference which has likely been uncovered and is trying to preempt it by putting the blame elsewhere. Russia has been playing fast and loose for quite a while now and further sanctions might be more then Russia can manage Putin has growing discontent to deal with and the russian people are not buying into the western bogeyman as they once did. Our biggest problem is Trump his reluctance to accept russian interference much less take any action against Russia is giving too much breathing space atm.
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12-03-2018, 22:56
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BREAKING: This just in from House Intelligence Commission Chairman Conaway just announced that the Committee is closing the "Russian collusion" investigation, having found zero evidence of any collusion between the Trump campaign and Russians.
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12-03-2018, 23:27
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Well, it’s hard to find something if you don’t look for it...
http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...ollusion-found
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The draft document asserts that there is no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians, the most politically charged question examined by the committee.
It will also contradict an official U.S. intelligence community assessment that Russian President Vladimir Putin showed a “preference” for Donald Trump during the race — another assertion that Trump has disputed.
“We found no evidence of collusion,” Conaway said Monday. “We found perhaps some bad judgment, inappropriate meetings, inappropriate judgment in taking meetings — but only Tom Clancy could take this series of inadvertent contacts, meetings, whatever, and weave that into some sort of a spy thriller that could go out there.”
Further, he said, “we couldn’t establish the same conclusion that the CIA did that [the Russians] specifically wanted to help Trump.”
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Mmmm, who to believe - 18 different Intelligence Community agencies, or a bunch of people trying to protect someone who will not impose sanctions on a foreign government who has been found to have interfered in your election...
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The raucous investigation in the House has been dramatically different from a parallel probe underway in the Senate Intelligence Committee, which has largely kept its work under wraps and whose leaders have presented a united front.
The Senate panel’s work is ongoing. Its first product, a report on election security, is expected to be released in the coming weeks.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/12/u...mp-russia.html
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Representative K. Michael Conaway of Texas, who is leading the investigation, said committee Republicans agreed with the conclusions of American intelligence agencies that Russia had interfered with the election, but they broke with the agencies on one crucial point: that the Russians had favored Mr. Trump’s candidacy.
“The bottom line: The Russians did commit active measures against our election in ’16, and we think they will do that in the future,” Mr. Conaway said. But, he added, “We disagree with the narrative that they were trying to help Trump.”
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What, they did it for fun, because they were bored between invading Crimea and assassinating ex-spies in other countries?
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12-03-2018, 23:40
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Interference that played no part in effecting the end result.
Also, they have been looking for it and found nothing because it never happened.
There is no way 18 separate (Actual 16) Intelligence agencies have made official statements that say Trump colluded with Russia. The DNC severs were not even handed over or examined, to conclusively prove who hacked them.
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13-03-2018, 00:22
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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Interference that played no part in effecting the end result.
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I think it's impossible to prove that either way.
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13-03-2018, 00:50
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I think it's impossible to prove that either way.
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No it’s not because Mueller’s team said that when they announced the indictments if 13 Russian nationals. Their interference played no part in changing the end result. Americans had already decided who they were voting for, they did not need Russians to tell or help them decide.
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13-03-2018, 14:01
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And another ones gone: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.91ea2c700d39
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President Trump has ousted Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and replaced him with CIA Director Mike Pompeo, orchestrating a major change to his national security team amid delicate negotiations with North Korea, White House officials said Tuesday.
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Shame. Tillerson was quite aligned with us as seen with him explicitly naming Russia in his statement yesterday.
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Looks like he may have found out he was fired from Trumps tweet: https://twitter.com/mitchellreports/...57338304073729
The State Department already said Trump hasn't spoken to Tillerson about it.
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13-03-2018, 22:38
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And another one...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43388157
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The president's long-time personal aide John McEntee has been fired by the White House, according to US media.
Mr McEntee, who served as an aide since early in the campaign, was reportedly escorted by security and was not permitted to collect his belongings.
President Donald Trump's re-election campaign announced on Tuesday Mr McEntee would join as a "senior adviser for campaign operations".
The announcement came on the same day Mr Trump fired his secretary of state.
Mr McEntee was fired amid a US Department of Homeland Security investigation against him for financial crimes, CBS News reports.
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I’m confused - he’s been fired from the White House because he’s being investigated for financial crimes, but the Trump campaign has hired him, even though he is being investigated?
Some more info here https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/trum...-campaign.html
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Federal law enforcement officials later confirmed to NBC that McEntee was under investigation by the Secret Service for serious financial crimes. The Wall Street Journal reported that McEntee had problems relating to gambling and taxes that were an obstacle to his obtaining security clearance.
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13-03-2018, 22:59
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Make that three firings now from Trump's Stong & Stable regime.
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Donald Trump has fired Steve Goldstein, the State Department official who challenged his account of firing Rex Tillerson.
The latest dismissal came in the midst of chaos in the White House after the President decided he would sack Mr Tillerson, who had served as his Secretary of State.
Following that firing, Under Secretary of State Steve Goldstein released a statement that appeared to contradict Mr Trump's account of the sacking. In it, he said that Mr Tillerson hadn't heard about being fired until the President sent a tweet announcing it.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8254151.html
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