Child grooming gang found guilty

[Russ]

I can't see how anyone can ignore or deny the fact that in each of these case all members of the gangs are either Asian or non white British.

Nobody would be so stupid as to suggest that white Brits can't be sex offenders but when there are 3 or more working in a 'street gang' together there's an extremely clear common denominator every time.

I don't care what the racial make up of these gangs are,lets just get them and jail them..

[Osem]

If there are cultural reasons which play a part in this behaviour within some communities it's important that they're understood and something's done about changing those attitudes not just reacting to the aftermath.

[Taf]

I really wish the description "asian" was dropped. It has so many possibilities from Chinese to Pakistani, Korean to East European Roma. Not at all descriptive to help the public (or police) find the foul culprits.

[greeninferno]

Originally Posted by Osem

If there are cultural reasons which play a part in this behaviour within some communities it's important that they're understood and something's done about changing those attitudes not just reacting to the aftermath.

eh? "cultural reasons"?

and what do you suggest is done to re educate sub human **** that gang raping young girls is wrong?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by greeninferno

eh? "cultural reasons"?

and what do you suggest is done to re educate sub human **** that gang raping young girls is wrong?

Take it you didn't see the word 'if'?

I was referring to the particular subject of this thread which is about 'Asian' gangs. I have no idea to what extent cultural differences play a part in this but there does seem to be a link and no that's not the same as condoning rape by anyone or saying that all (or most or even many) Pakistani men are rapists.

We very probably can't re-educate some human **** but we might just be able to stop the propagation of their beliefs and behaviour to younger generations by better understanding where they stem from and challenging them. If an attitude of contempt towards women in general and western women in particular is a factor in what's going on with these gangs then it's important something's done about that before it leads to abuse and rape. Punishing the guilty is great but tackling the root of the problem is also important.

[weenie]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

I don't care what the racial make up of these gangs are,lets just get them and jail them..

It seems to me that there is more concentration on the racial makeup of offenders than the crime or the victims.

[Osem]

Well there's nothing we can do about the awful crimes which have been committed is there. There is something which can be done about understanding why it's happening and trying to prevent more young girls becoming victims. That'd include the authorities taking these matters far more seriously - an aspect of the discussion which has had plenty of debate and also seems in part to have been a reluctance to accept that these young people were vulnerable and being specifically targeted by certain gangs for fear of offending certain 'communities'.

[Russ]

When there's a clear link between so many offenders you have to wonder why it is the authorities don't seem to be doing much or anything about it, or even to help prevent it happening again.

[Russ]

Oh what a surprise http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-29058297

[Qtx]

Why does it take the scare of bad publicity for the police to go and act on this kind of thing that they know is going on in their areas?

Wonder how long it will take to hear if they are all of a certain ethnic background? If they are 'white british' I am sure we will be told straight away...

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Qtx

Why does it take the scare of bad publicity for the police to go and act on this kind of thing that they know is going on in their areas? Wonder how long it will take to hear if they are all of a certain ethnic background? If they are 'white british' I am sure we will be told straight away...

You can tell they're Asians. you can tell by Russ's "Oh what a surprise!"

[Russ]

Well yeah and the thread topic.

[nomadking]

ITV News said all were Asian and some needed interpreters.