Formula 1 2009 Season [may contain real time spoilers] - Page 42

Matty_ · 28-07-2009, 14:14

Woaa if Schumie returns that is certainly going to throw a stone in the works, who will he `help` if given the chance!
Will he be rooting for his fellow countryman(vettel) or just concentrate on Ferrari, my guess is being the ruthless driver he is, all he`ll wan`t is to win.
Schumacher, Hamilton and Alonso, throw in a couple of Red-Bulls and you have a mighty toxious cocktail at that first corner

Bring it on....

On the could the incident have been avoided, my opinion is things like this are going to happen in high level motor sport, i was amazed when they said that because Alonso`s wheel disc cover thingy wasn`t put on right it was able to spin the nut loose, that shouldn`t be able to happen, that is a serious issue which needs addressing.

Kymmy · 28-07-2009, 14:17

As he's still employed by Ferrari I doubt if Vettel will be his option..

hedgie · 28-07-2009, 15:04

Looks like Piquet will be out before too long. Source Autosprint.

"Flavio is a business man, but he doesn't understand s*** about F1," Piquet was quoted as saying by the Italian magazine. "He's my manager, but in his role of team boss he doesn't respect me."

Glad I have a better relationship at work with the "management"

Kymmy · 28-07-2009, 15:07

I wonder if he's ever heard of the term "Respect is earned" It's a shame really as there's to many of these racers who expect the teams to bend over backwards to support them purely on thier fathers' racing ability..

hedgie · 28-07-2009, 16:05

Although I'm not a Piquet fan he did slug it out in GP2 with Lewis in pretty much equal machinery and he's proved OK in F1. Piquet never seemed to step up to the mark in the quite the same way, I dont recall him ever challenging Alonso on pace in qually.

dev · 28-07-2009, 16:21

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

Which is why I said that they also need to do wheel nuts that can't spin off, mind you the wheel/brake cover was probably the main culprit in why it span off so fast with Alonso.

PS..congrats on your 1000th post

The wheel nuts have a lock on them so they can't come off, the problem was it wasn't locked due to the wheel/brake cover not going on properly. It's a similar situation to the wheel tethers, the tethers can only hold the wheel to a part of the car, if that part breaks off, the tether can't keep the wheel with the car.

Kymmy · 28-07-2009, 16:36

The lock though only engages at full tightness, the alonso incident has shown that another method is needed especially as pit crews will always make a mistake every now and then

Turkey Machine · 28-07-2009, 19:06

If the wheel nut doesn't go on properly, the nut retainer should still be pulled out. Evidently the guy on the gun failed to do both. Seems a case of the lollipop man's fault on this one, the wheel gun man hadn't done his job properly.

Hom3r · 28-07-2009, 19:52

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Originally Posted by Turkey Machine

If the wheel nut doesn't go on properly, the nut retainer should still be pulled out. Evidently the guy on the gun failed to do both. Seems a case of the lollipop man's fault on this one, the wheel gun man hadn't done his job properly.

The guy doing the front right was at zero fault.

his hand was still in the nut area when the car was released by the lolly pop man who didn't get the ready signal from all the guys.

SnoopZ · 28-07-2009, 20:20

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

The guy doing the front right was at zero fault.

his hand was still in the nut area when the car was released by the lolly pop man who didn't get the ready signal from all the guys.

Yes you could see that on the BBC replay, however I can't find that clip anywhere now.

hedgie · 28-07-2009, 23:10

BMW have called an "emergency" press conference tomorrow (wed). Possibly to announce their withdrawal from f1 before they are required to sign up to the new Concorde agreement. Watch the relevant spaces !!

SnoopZ · 28-07-2009, 23:17

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Originally Posted by hedgie

BMW have called an "emergency" press conference tomorrow (wed). Possibly to announce their withdrawal from f1 before they are required to sign up to the new Concorde agreement. Watch the relevant spaces !!

Yes looks that way.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77398

sherer · 28-07-2009, 23:26

just heard this too. not good news and wonder if this will lead to Toyota doing the same.

3 new teams in and now one out. Wonder if Prodrive can get in now

Kymmy · 29-07-2009, 09:09

Yep, it's official, BMW have removed themselves from F1 after this season (link to follow)

Ravenheart · 29-07-2009, 09:12

BMW will withdraw from Formula 1 at the end of this season.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8173865.stm

Talk of Schumacher standing in for Massa

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8172310.stm