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RichardCoulter · 09-10-2016, 17:27

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Originally Posted by whoareyou

Is there a know reason for this? ie, age of box, amount of storage used, etc?
Because I have two, one older and one newer and (fortunately) neither suffer like this. All bit it slow, not this bad-

My amateur belief is that it's down to the CPU that can't handle what's being asked of it, others who know more about such things blame it on poorly written software.

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Originally Posted by i am not scouse

I have 3 all of differing ages and keep the amount of recordings down. Even tried the suggestions thing but there still useless. I'm just waiting to see how good and how much the new box will be. And if it's not appealing and to expensive it's sky Q

That seems like a sensible strategy for those out of contract.

Those still in contract are currently faced with the stark choice of leaving VM whilst they can (due to the get out clause due to the price rise) or hoping that the new box works and is reasonably priced. If they take this risk and it doesn't work out, they will have to see out their remaining contract with a barely useable box or break their contract and deal with any problems that doing so creates.

DaMac · 09-10-2016, 19:40

It's not so much that it was poorly written software, more like they took software that wasn't specifically written for the hardware and just added patches here there and everywhere so they could rush the item to market, remember the third tuner didn't work on launch.
Once you launched the device with all these workarounds there isn't really any going back, all you do is try to write better patches.

heero_yuy · 09-10-2016, 19:51

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Originally Posted by DaMac

It's not so much that it was poorly written software, more like they took software that wasn't specifically written for the hardware and just added patches here there and everywhere so they could rush the item to market, remember the third tuner didn't work on launch.
Once you launched the device with all these workarounds there isn't really any going back, all you do is try to write better patches.

It's a perfect illustration of the maxim: Do NOT do at run time that you can do at compile time.

I would hazard a guess that the software is highly abstracted from the actual hardware and the processor is wasting most of its time on abstraction layers rather than actualy delivering to the user.

RichardCoulter · 09-10-2016, 20:50

I wonder if the new TiVo software has been rewritten from scratch??

If so, perhaps it could be sent to the old boxes to overwrite all the problematic software??

Perhaps the V6 will be better because it has more processing power, but whilst VM drag their feet as usual in providing infirmation, we simply don't know.

Being afraid of Sky stealing a march with Sky Q is now a moot point.

I actually suspect that they are doing this on purpose to keep customers still in contract hanging on until they can no longer leave without them trying to impose a penalty.

Stephen · 09-10-2016, 22:28

I am 100% certain that the software will not have been rewritten at all.

More like the original hardware was picked when the TiVo software was in a totally different state where as now they have the software or UI the way they want they will do be aable to pick the best hardware to make it work.

Also as Sky are now pushing Q as their main system I think they have a winner.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I actually suspect that they are doing this on purpose to keep customers still in contract hanging on until they can no longer leave without them trying to impose a penalty.

I am sure that it is not the case, it is more than likely that the STB isn't finalised or finished testing yet, so they will be doing the right thing and waiting till they are sure it will be great before officially releasing details.

RichardCoulter · 09-10-2016, 23:23

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I am 100% certain that the software will not have been rewritten at all.

More like the original hardware was picked when the TiVo software was in a totally different state where as now they have the software or UI the way they want they will do be aable to pick the best hardware to make it work.

Also as Sky are now pushing Q as their main system I think they have a winner.

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I am sure that it is not the case, it is more than likely that the STB isn't finalised or finished testing yet, so they will be doing the right thing and waiting till they are sure it will be great before officially releasing details.

If they are choosing the hardware to cope with the software that sounds sensible, but won't help those with existing boxes.

I wonder what will happen to all the existing boxes that are running so slow.

When TiVo started, they let people site their existing V+ in another room at no extra charge.

Maybe they will offer to resite the old box if customers take a new one.

They could be useful for a bedroom for example, as having to wait for one programme to start that you want to watch before bed isn't too bad as opposed to having it as a main box.

Having said that, if the new box can stream it's recordings like Sky Q, will there be any need?

http://cableforum.co.uk/board/showth...8#post35862718

Ddonald2016 · 13-10-2016, 19:07

Additional TiVo appears in my tv anywhere but I only have two but it listing three

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Ok I have some news on new TiVo

1. It will launch within next 2 months and working pro type in head office, final version is testing.

2. Price is guaranteed to be competitive to sky tv

3. Existing customers will get first chance on new box before new customers

4. Box can connect to internet via wifi or Ethernet

5. Possible one main box and smaller hub

6. New feature confirmed if you lose your remote you can press button on box to find remote

7. Box might be self install option for £49.99 and £99.99, manual £99 and £149

4 hidden features from the top brass revealed only at launch

denphone · 13-10-2016, 19:19

Hmmmmmmmm...

Ddonald2016 · 13-10-2016, 19:22

Exactly I found it interesting

denphone · 13-10-2016, 19:25

l gather you must have been talking to a mole inside Virgin Media??.

Ddonald2016 · 13-10-2016, 19:31

Well all I can say to protect the identity of the member of staff, I have seen evidence to support this apart from the one TiVo or a need for more than one

Mad Max · 13-10-2016, 19:40

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3. Existing customers will get first chance on new box for new customers

That doesn't make sense mate, should it not read "existing customers will get first chance of new box ahead of new customers"?

Ddonald2016 · 13-10-2016, 19:50

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

That doesn't make sense mate, should it not read "existing customers will get first chance of new box ahead of new customers"?

Thanks for pointing that out I have amended it

denphone · 13-10-2016, 19:50

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016

Well all I can say to protect the identity of the member of staff, I have seen evidence to support this apart from the one TiVo or a need for more than one

Any staff caught revealing very private important company information would be instantly fired for revealed NDA information as its written into their contract unless SP or Ben can tell me otherwise.

Ddonald2016 · 13-10-2016, 20:04

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Originally Posted by denphone

Any staff caught revealing very private important company information would be instantly fired for revealed NDA information as its written into their contract unless SP or Ben can tell me otherwise.

I do get what you mean but the info I have heard will either be dismissed or be correct when the box launches