12-02-2004, 18:45
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Re: I'm off!
Here we go...Part Three.
Thought I would try out my new ADSL router today and even though the line is not due for activation until tommorow I was pleased to find it works already!
To be honest I'm surprised it works at all, there are 4 phones and miles of cheapo focus diy extensions in my house plus when the bt eng reconnected me, he had to fix THREE breaks between my house and the exchange, two of them required digging the pavement up....imagine that with ntl?????
Anyway, it works. Plugged in the super cheapo Origo router, pasted in my cust details from f2s and bang, off it went. RDHW's test shows a steady 490Kbps which worried me at first having been used to ntl 1meg. However, the user experience is fantastic! It FEELS three times faster than my old setup, pages pop up almost instantly just like on my leased line at work. I guess it's the total lack of proxies and caches that does it.
Whatever it is, it's bloody good. I pinged a few sites on my NTL 1meg and was getting 70-90 ms to the likes of www.theregister.co.uk over 4 or 5 attempts. The f2s ADSL is giving me 14-20 ms to the same sites...fantastic.
So, overall, full marks to freedom2surf SO FAR.
watch this space though!! I can't half moan
Terry
tkiely@f2s.com
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12-02-2004, 18:48
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#47
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Re: I'm off!
Oh forgot to say, it's £22.50 per mth and that includes one fixed IP address.
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19-02-2004, 21:47
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Re: I'm off!
Bored now,
17 days in and everything is working fine!
Phone great,
TV fantastic, too many channels really
ADSL, out of this world, pings to work site go as low as 2ms
thing is all i do on the web all day is look at nthw! sad or what?
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19-02-2004, 21:49
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Re: I'm off!
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Originally Posted by tkiely
Bored now,
17 days in and everything is working fine!
Phone great,
TV fantastic, too many channels really
ADSL, out of this world, pings to work site go as low as 2ms
thing is all i do on the web all day is look at nthw! sad or what?
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Jammy git  Sod off
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20-02-2004, 01:49
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Re: I'm off!
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Originally Posted by tkiely
Bored now,
17 days in and everything is working fine!
Phone great,
TV fantastic, too many channels really
ADSL, out of this world, pings to work site go as low as 2ms
thing is all i do on the web all day is look at nthw! sad or what?
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And has the speed dropped? if you have 1meg you should be getting around 120kb/s download
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20-02-2004, 03:04
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Re: I'm off!
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Originally Posted by tkiely
Bored now,
ADSL, out of this world, pings to work site go as low as 2ms
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God DAMNIT, if I find out my router will do the same, I am so moving if thats your ping. Any sign of a cap?
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20-02-2004, 14:46
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Re: I'm off!
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Originally Posted by Starsurfer
God DAMNIT, if I find out my router will do the same, I am so moving if thats your ping. Any sign of a cap?
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The majority of adsl isp's have no restrictions/no set cap, just read the T&C's on the providers web page of choice.
If you cannot find anything about restrictions you can always just phone them & ask.
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21-02-2004, 12:56
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Re: I'm off!
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Originally Posted by homealone
anyone posting against Wayne will incur my wrath, also, he has been very polite, during his presence on the forum, I share your admiration, proppin, he is a young man who could go very far.
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Aww thanks, just remember people these are my opinions and i do welcome constructive comments. (That reminds me to repost the link to my website in "the show us your website" thread.)
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21-02-2004, 14:49
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Re: I'm off!
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Originally Posted by tkiely
Here we go...Part Three.
Thought I would try out my new ADSL router today and even though the line is not due for activation until tommorow I was pleased to find it works already!
To be honest I'm surprised it works at all, there are 4 phones and miles of cheapo focus diy extensions in my house plus when the bt eng reconnected me, he had to fix THREE breaks between my house and the exchange, two of them required digging the pavement up....imagine that with ntl?????
Anyway, it works. Plugged in the super cheapo Origo router, pasted in my cust details from f2s and bang, off it went. RDHW's test shows a steady 490Kbps which worried me at first having been used to ntl 1meg. However, the user experience is fantastic! It FEELS three times faster than my old setup, pages pop up almost instantly just like on my leased line at work. I guess it's the total lack of proxies and caches that does it.
Whatever it is, it's bloody good. I pinged a few sites on my NTL 1meg and was getting 70-90 ms to the likes of www.theregister.co.uk over 4 or 5 attempts. The f2s ADSL is giving me 14-20 ms to the same sites...fantastic.
So, overall, full marks to freedom2surf SO FAR.
watch this space though!! I can't half moan
Terry
tkiely@f2s.com
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Just out of curiosity - Any chance of posting a tracert please ?
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21-02-2004, 15:01
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Re: I'm off!
3 tracerts of what his connections like at peak time 19:00-23:00 (sat/sun)
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25-02-2004, 21:04
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Re: I'm off!
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Originally Posted by DrAwesome
3 tracerts of what his connections like at peak time 19:00-23:00 (sat/sun) 
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Tracing route to www.theregister.co.uk [212.100.234.54]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms 194.106.33.164
3 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms i-194-106-32-57.freedom2surf.net [194.106.32.57]
4 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms edge2.lon.rackspace.net [195.66.224.116]
5 23 ms 23 ms 21 ms vl130.aggr1.lon.rackspace.net [212.100.227.18]
6 24 ms 25 ms 24 ms 212.100.234.54
Trace complete.
sorry, I missed your replys so here we go. Hop one is my ethernet adsl router.
Tracing route to www.theregister.co.uk [212.100.234.54]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms 194.106.33.164
3 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms i-194-106-32-57.freedom2surf.net [194.106.32.57]
4 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms edge2.lon.rackspace.net [195.66.224.116]
5 23 ms 23 ms 21 ms vl130.aggr1.lon.rackspace.net [212.100.227.18]
6 24 ms 25 ms 24 ms 212.100.234.54
Trace complete.
The 18-20ms is introduced by the adsl part of the link. WHen I tracert from work to home its 2ms all the way to the final adsl link to my house, ie the last hop which then goes to 18-20ms.
My point was that freedom2surf are maintaining as good a backbone (as shown by the low results) as Globix who are a leading tier one isp.
Anyway, new development.
As I reported earlier, although I am paid up to the end of Feb, NTL called to reclaim their STBs a couple of weeks ago. I didnt care 'cos I have Sky now. However they did say that they would send a jiffy bag for me to post the CM back to them.
I called today to ask where my jiffy bag was, 'Oh dont worry, we will continue your service until the 30th' she said.
'Is that the 30th of February?' I asked
'Yes'
'30th of Feb? are you sure?'
'Yes'
'Fine, thanks very much'
SO looks like they will collect on the 12th of never. It continues even after I have left-amazing
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25-02-2004, 21:32
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Re: I'm off!
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Originally Posted by tkiely
Tracing route to www.theregister.co.uk [212.100.234.54]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms 194.106.33.164
3 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms i-194-106-32-57.freedom2surf.net [194.106.32.57]
4 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms edge2.lon.rackspace.net [195.66.224.116]
5 23 ms 23 ms 21 ms vl130.aggr1.lon.rackspace.net [212.100.227.18]
6 24 ms 25 ms 24 ms 212.100.234.54
Trace complete.
sorry, I missed your replys so here we go. Hop one is my ethernet adsl router.
Tracing route to www.theregister.co.uk [212.100.234.54]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms 194.106.33.164
3 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms i-194-106-32-57.freedom2surf.net [194.106.32.57]
4 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms edge2.lon.rackspace.net [195.66.224.116]
5 23 ms 23 ms 21 ms vl130.aggr1.lon.rackspace.net [212.100.227.18]
6 24 ms 25 ms 24 ms 212.100.234.54
Trace complete.
The 18-20ms is introduced by the adsl part of the link. WHen I tracert from work to home its 2ms all the way to the final adsl link to my house, ie the last hop which then goes to 18-20ms.
My point was that freedom2surf are maintaining as good a backbone (as shown by the low results) as Globix who are a leading tier one isp.
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Cheers for the Trace routes tkiely
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Anyway, new development.
As I reported earlier, although I am paid up to the end of Feb, NTL called to reclaim their STBs a couple of weeks ago. I didnt care 'cos I have Sky now. However they did say that they would send a jiffy bag for me to post the CM back to them.
I called today to ask where my jiffy bag was, 'Oh dont worry, we will continue your service until the 30th' she said.
'Is that the 30th of February?' I asked
'Yes'
'30th of Feb? are you sure?'
'Yes'
'Fine, thanks very much'
SO looks like they will collect on the 12th of never. It continues even after I have left-amazing
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I still have my CM i did phone/ask my local NTL franchise if they were going to retrieve it & i was told no.. so it sits on the cuboard gathering dust & the odd kitty cat hair when the cat decides to sit on it
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25-02-2004, 21:52
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Re: I'm off!
 I bet the connection still works too!
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