NTL or SKY - Help please!
06-11-2005, 12:58
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
Just something to think about if you get both installed for the 7 day trial. I had sky and when i had ntl installed the ntl engineer without asking me cut off my sky cable so he could use that hole in the wall to feed through the ntl cable saveing him a bit off time. I did not notice this untill he had gone, so be carefull as if this happens to you and you want to keep sky you may end up paying for the destruction caused. I did complain to ntl as if after my contract is up and i wanted to go back to sky i would have had to pay for new cable and they did come back to rectify the problem.
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06-11-2005, 13:08
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
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Originally Posted by fudge
I had sky and when i had ntl installed the ntl engineer without asking me cut off my sky cable so he could use that hole in the wall to feed through the ntl cable saveing him a bit off time. I did not notice this untill he had gone, so be carefull as if this happens to you and you want to keep sky you may end up paying for the destruction caused.
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Yeh I have thought about this... The natural thing for the engineer to do is use the same hole as SKY is currently. The way it is laid out is a VERY easy install for the engineer. My first thought (if going to NTL and ditching SKY) was to use this hole, basically just to keep the destruction to the wall to a minimum.
But as I said above in the "running 2 systems" scenario, it would be the only way.
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07-11-2005, 12:33
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
arcamalpha2004 Star Man
Just rang NTL CS and I am indeed entitled to a 7 day trial (he had to check to see exactly what the trial time is).
So I will run this trial from the 16th. I will keep SKY at least up until the end of that 7 day period and make my decision.
As ever this forum rocks!!
I'll post my results here asap, many thanks once again all
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18-11-2005, 09:30
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
Just posting my results after having NTL CATV fitted 3 days ago in place of SKY
Installation: Excellent!! Ntl installers did everything i asked and more. Spot on job  Even gave me a seperate longer cable should i want to move the TV.
Box Supplied: Samsung  I asked them what box they would be fitting and they told me "i don't want a Pace box". Was made up with this after reading posts here!
Quality: On a par with SKY. Pleased with it. NTL lacks some of the functionality of SKY, but overall it isn't too dissimilar. Responses from the dreaded "Red Button" are also on a par with SKY
Overall, i am happy with the descision we have made. We are getting a mirror service from NTL for half the price of SKY. I think we'll give this 12 months (as per the contract), and see where both companies are at that point. If NTL do actually release HD PVR next year in response to SKY, i may well be sticking with the NTL product!
On a final note - Sky.
When i told them i was cancelling my contract they couldn't do enough, offering me this that and the other..... This was a few days after telling me that i would have to pay them £60 per month for a SKY+ service. Reminded me of those robbers at BT shortly before i ditched 'em....
Many thanks to all who have helped, invaluable info as ever
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18-11-2005, 09:44
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
£60 a month for Sky+??
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18-11-2005, 10:03
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
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Originally Posted by Sherlock614
When i told them i was cancelling my contract they couldn't do enough, offering me this that and the other..... This was a few days after telling me that i would have to pay them £60 per month for a SKY+ service.
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Sky don't offer a Sky + package that costs £60.00 per month.
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18-11-2005, 10:36
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
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We are getting a mirror service from NTL for half the price of SKY
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What price is that then? NTL charge £15 pm for a mirror sub and Sky charge £10 pm. I know the NTL box is rented and the Sky box has to be bought but the £49 for a Sky+ box is recouped in 10 months.
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18-11-2005, 10:43
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
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Originally Posted by Neil
Sky don't offer a Sky + package that costs £60.00 per month. 
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Sorry mistyped!!
It would cost me approximately £40
But in order for me to get SKY+ (if i wanted it), i would *have* to do the following....
Order SKY Plus. Have my present box "moved to another room" and pay for it. (We don't have a TV in another room).
So, i would have to firstly pay for the box.
Then i would have to either get movies or sports (we watch neither), just to get SKY+ or pay £10 per month. Then pay for the box in the other room (connected to fresh air).
Sounded like a good deal to me (NOT).
Tha is what i got told in a phone call to SKY (before the phone call to terminate).
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18-11-2005, 11:06
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
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Originally Posted by Sherlock614
Order SKY Plus. Have my present box "moved to another room" and pay for it. (We don't have a TV in another room)
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If you don't have another TV what is the "We are getting a mirror service from NTL for half the price of SKY" referring to?
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18-11-2005, 11:09
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
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Originally Posted by Sherlock614
Hi,
Need some help with a decision if possible
I currently have Sky (£19 per month package).
Had a letter through the door from NTL offering half price family package for 6 months (£9.50).
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That is how it started. When i asked SKY about possible upgrades they wanted top dollar. Didn't really give me any leeway until i told them i was leaving. A bit too late.
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18-11-2005, 13:13
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
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Originally Posted by ian@huth
If you don't have another TV what is the "We are getting a mirror service from NTL for half the price of SKY" referring to?
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I think it is refering to the TV package offered by NTL "mirroring" that of Sky.
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18-11-2005, 13:41
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
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Originally Posted by Sherlock614
Sorry mistyped!!
It would cost me approximately £40
But in order for me to get SKY+ (if i wanted it), i would *have* to do the following....
Order SKY Plus. Have my present box "moved to another room" and pay for it. (We don't have a TV in another room).
So, i would have to firstly pay for the box.
Then i would have to either get movies or sports (we watch neither), just to get SKY+ or pay £10 per month. Then pay for the box in the other room (connected to fresh air).
Sounded like a good deal to me (NOT).
Tha is what i got told in a phone call to SKY (before the phone call to terminate).
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They would have been referring to multiroom if you wanted the Sky+ for £49 but you dont need to take that. Granted you would pay £99 for the box if you didnt want multiroom.
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18-11-2005, 15:00
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
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Originally Posted by fudge
Just something to think about if you get both installed for the 7 day trial. I had sky and when i had ntl installed the ntl engineer without asking me cut off my sky cable so he could use that hole in the wall to feed through the ntl cable saveing him a bit off time. I did not notice this untill he had gone, so be carefull as if this happens to you and you want to keep sky you may end up paying for the destruction caused. I did complain to ntl as if after my contract is up and i wanted to go back to sky i would have had to pay for new cable and they did come back to rectify the problem.
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the NTL engineer did the same with my areal cable didnt find out till a few weeks ago CS said i couldnt prove he did it so there was nothing they could do
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18-11-2005, 21:50
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
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Originally Posted by djstevie
They would have been referring to multiroom if you wanted the Sky+ for £49 but you dont need to take that. Granted you would pay £99 for the box if you didnt want multiroom.
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No, he quite clearly stated what i said above. I was gobsmacked to be honest. I said to him that in order for me to get SKY+ (if i wanted it), it would cost me an arm and a leg. He said i would have to have the above setup in order to get SKY+, other customers have to do it. It felt like he didn't want me to have it if anything
It tipped me in NTL's direction after that convo.
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18-11-2005, 23:10
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Re: NTL or SKY - Help please!
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Originally Posted by Sherlock614
No, he quite clearly stated what i said above. I was gobsmacked to be honest. I said to him that in order for me to get SKY+ (if i wanted it), it would cost me an arm and a leg. He said i would have to have the above setup in order to get SKY+, other customers have to do it. It felt like he didn't want me to have it if anything
It tipped me in NTL's direction after that convo.
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Im not saying he didnt tell you that, what i was meaning was that what he told you was wrong. I work for the Turnaround team at Sky and what u were told was misleading information.
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