[Updated] Theresa May is new UK PM - Page 4

Mr K · 01-07-2016, 19:20

Unless you're a member of the Tory party, you don't get a vote on who the next leader of the country is. Even they only get 2 candidates which MPs choose for them.
Some democracy we've got.

I'd vote for Theresa, turns me on something rotten... Gove just doesn't do it for me...

denphone · 01-07-2016, 19:28

Personally l prefer May as Gove to me is one of those wolf's in sheep's clothing.

Hom3r · 01-07-2016, 19:33

First off I'm anti-tory.

NOT Crabb, didn't he say Gays can be cured? if so nil points.

As has been said the next PM MUST MUST be a Brexitier.

Mr K · 01-07-2016, 19:43

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

As has been said the next PM MUST MUST be a Brexitier.

Yes, but they're all stark raving bonkers.

**Hugh** · 01-07-2016, 19:43

Latest bookies odds on the leadership

denphone · 01-07-2016, 19:46

You better get your money on then Hugh.

**Hugh** · 01-07-2016, 19:48

Could be worse, another party is likely to expel it's only MP...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7114526.html

**Damien** · 01-07-2016, 20:05

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Could be worse, another party is likely to expel it's only MP...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7114526.html

He'll probably welcome it. Just become an Independent MP with the Tory whip.

papa smurf · 01-07-2016, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Could be worse, another party is likely to expel it's only MP...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7114526.html

he's a Tory spy they can have him back we don't need to feed him misinformation anymore the jobs done

Ramrod · 01-07-2016, 21:34

Andrea Leadsom imo. After listening to her in a few brexit debates, She's the one for the job

We need a poll at the top of this thread

01-07-2016, 22:39

A brexiter candidate is too divisive we need someone that will carry out the democratic will of the people and can mend fences on the mending fences alone Gove is clearly not the one. If he had been upfront about things yep I'd support him but the duplicitous way he has behaved and acted absolutely rules him out, you cannot just say "it's politics" and anything becomes ok the leader of this country has to be someone with credibility and someone people can feel will do what they say.

I voted leave as I thought that was the best thing for the UK and I don't need to have someone from the leave campaign as leader I just need a leader I can trust much as we can trust any politician and one I believe will further the national interest not their own.

Kursk · 02-07-2016, 00:17

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Originally Posted by Damien

The problem is he has to win support of his MPs before he gets to be put before the members.

Nothing wrong with personal ambition but it's the way he did it which seems to have alienated a lot of his colleagues. We say this is politics but politics requires some trust to function.

If he had decided to run against Boris in the aftermath of the vote then they would deem that fair, even Boris' perceived calculated approach to support Leave was deemed fair. However making yourself campaign manager for a rival and planning everything to cause maximum destruction to that rival seems to be beyond what would be considered 'fair game' in the dark arts of politics. It's ruthlessly dishonest. It's a political manoeuvre that's impossible to defend against and if commonplace would destroy any ability for politics to function if the people running your campaign were out to screw you.

Tory MPs might be asking how can they trust him when Cameron was a close friend and he did him in only for him to be given a position of trust from Boris which he promptly used to screw him over too.

If you were offered a job in cabinet in return for your support how would you know he wouldn't stab you in the back the moment he won?

I don't think we should be too British about this - our famous sense of fair play will not serve us well in negotiations within the den of iniquity that is Europe.

All poiticians are on notice now more than ever that if you fail to serve the people in the way that the people expect, you will soon feel the weight of a hefty boot removing you from No 10.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

A brexiter candidate is too divisive we need someone that will carry out the democratic will of the people and can mend fences on the mending fences alone Gove is clearly not the one. If he had been upfront about things yep I'd support him but the duplicitous way he has behaved and acted absolutely rules him out, you cannot just say "it's politics" and anything becomes ok the leader of this country has to be someone with credibility and someone people can feel will do what they say.

I voted leave as I thought that was the best thing for the UK and I don't need to have someone from the leave campaign as leader I just need a leader I can trust much as we can trust any politician and one I believe will further the national interest not their own.

Why is a Brexiteer divisive? Why isn't a Remainer divisive too?

This isn't about making up with anyone, it's about a divorce and experience tells us that these things can get messy.

Mr Gove has taken his chance by acting incisively at exactly the right time. Political manoeuvre is about strategy and being upfront doesn't fit. Mr Gove is a sharp cookie and having him in our corner will serve the national interest far more effectively than someone who didn't even have the vision of 17.4 million people. Besides, I still think there's more to this Boris business than meets the eye.

It will all unfold soon.

02-07-2016, 00:31

Top tip poeple...

Satan has better odds to be PM than Leicester had to win the premier league at 5000/1. Could be a money maker/ bookie breaker...

02-07-2016, 02:30

I'm not on about the EU when I talk of making up I'm talking about the people of this country there is a divide that needs healing much as it can as well as the EU negotiations. Leave won the vote and whoever becomes the next pm will follow the result so we're leaving, a smart but acceptable political leader is the requirement best for the UK now and Gove isn't that politician. Stabbing two friends in the back is not the quality that causes others to be open and confident in any assurances given a major part of any deal is that the deal will be respected by both could you honestly deal with Gove and not worry he'd go back on any agreement if he felt it was better for him.

May has proven to be a reliable and very competent politician and after what happened with Cameron and that deal he came back with in February no politician will make that mistake again. End of the day it's irrelevant Gove might have been clever in clearing opposition but he was stupid in being so obvious in what he did and has alienated too many fellow conservatives to become the leader.

02-07-2016, 07:28

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Unless you're a member of the Tory party, you don't get a vote on who the next leader of the country is. Even they only get 2 candidates which MPs choose for them.
Some democracy we've got.

I'd vote for Theresa, turns me on something rotten... Gove just doesn't do it for me...

The prime minister is not the leader of the country,influential yes ,leader of the party with the most seats in the Commons yes,but definitely not the leader of the country .