Is this the most dangerous man in Britain?

[ianch99]

Oi! My thread has been hijacked (like many others before it) and turned into a Labour Trash-a-thon

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Originally Posted by tweedle

Ianch99 please explain why Osborne listening to the people who elected him is a negative?

Because he did not U-turn because he had a change of mind, that he realised the policies were unfair and dangerous. He U-turned because he was made to.

Plus:

Very significant spending cuts to come, think tank warns

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Oi! My thread has been hijacked (like many others before it) and turned into a Labour Trash-a-thon

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Because he did not U-turn because he had a change of mind, that he realised the policies were unfair and dangerous. He U-turned because he was made to.

Plus:

Very significant spending cuts to come, think tank warns

The thread title does not specify who is the most dangerous so we're at liberty to nominate whilst staying on topic.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

The thread title does not specify who is the most dangerous so we're at liberty to nominate whilst staying on topic.

So you just read the thread title and not the text of the first post, fair enough Didn't realise it worked like here ...

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by ianch99

So you just read the thread title and not the text of the first post, fair enough Didn't realise it worked like here ...

I read the anti Tory diatribe but posted within the rules.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

I read the anti Tory diatribe but posted within the rules.

So you are balancing things with an anti-Labour diatribe. Nice ..

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Because he did not U-turn because he had a change of mind, that he realised the policies were unfair and dangerous. He U-turned because he was made to.

Yeh.
U-turn Davy and Georgy they call em!

Originally Posted by ianch99

Hugh, what is your point? You agree with Osem and the Mirror on calling Tories Toffs?

If this is just a wind up, fair enough but really, what are you trying to say? Spell it out ..[COLOR="Silver"]

If I wasn't clear enough, perhaps this summary will help.

Originally Posted by techguyone

Does it matter why? He did, which if nothing else, shows he listens, which is more than anyone in Labour ever did. You should change your Avatar to 'keep left' it would be more apt.

Originally Posted by ianch99

If you have to ask why it matters then we'll leave it there ..

I thought I was on your block list? Nice that you are debating the points and not getting personal

Originally Posted by tweedle

The conservatives were elected by the people and they listened to the people. Are you saying Osbourne doing what the electorate wants is a bad thing? Would you of preferred him to ignore what people want?

Osem then commented on the above, intimating that if Osborne had not listened to what people wanted, you (ianch99) could then call Osborne an out of touch Tory toff - he himself did not call Tories toffs.

Originally Posted by Osem

Yes because then he could call Osborne an out of touch Tory toff who couldn't care less about ordinary working people, blah, blah, blah. You just can't please some folks evidently...

You then replied with

Originally Posted by ianch99

Osem is stuck in the past (with his beloved Labour party). You just don't call people "Toffs" anymore ..

Once again, Osem did not call Tories toffs, he intimated that you would.

I then provided evidence that the person in charge of the last Labour Election Campaign, and the main Labour supporting newspaper, had called Tories toffs, to rebuff your statement that no-one called people Toffs anymore.

Originally Posted by Hugh

From last year, by the Labour Party's Chair of General Election Strategy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...n_5304928.html

From the Daily Mirror, September 2014

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...h-poor-4354741

Hope this helps...

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Originally Posted by ianch99

So you are balancing things with an anti-Labour diatribe. Nice ..

It's called balanced debating - allowing both sides to air their views...

[Osem]

Of course, if Labour weren't so unfit for purpose there'd be nothing to trash. As it is, their recent leaders have proved to be a political gift which just keeps on giving...

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Originally Posted by Hugh

If I wasn't clear enough, perhaps this summary will help.






Osem then commented on the above, intimating that if Osborne had not listened to what people wanted, you (ianch99) could then call Osborne an out of touch Tory toff - he himself did not call Tories toffs.



You then replied with Once again, Osem did not call Tories toffs, he intimated that you would.

I then provided evidence that the person in charge of the last Labour Election Campaign, and the main Labour supporting newspaper, had called Tories toffs, to rebuff your statement that no-one called people Toffs anymore.



Hope this helps...

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It's called balanced debating - allowing both sides to air their views...

Sums it up nicely for me...

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Osem

Of course, if Labour weren't so unfit for purpose there'd be nothing to trash. As it is, their recent leaders have proved to be a political gift which just keeps on giving...

He voted Labour. he just pretends he don't like them to distract you

Originally Posted by Gary L

He voted Labour. he just pretends he don't like them to distract you

This is as accurate and factual as most of your posts....

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Hugh

If I wasn't clear enough, perhaps this summary will help .. It's called balanced debating - allowing both sides to air their views...

Thanks Hugh for clarifying. Some observations:

- intimating what people might be saying (also known as "putting words in people's mouths") instead of responding to what they actually said is poor
- as most of the people responding to these threads are politically right of centre, the concept of balance is (wait for it ...) debatable. Look at this thread: number of people on one side of the debate and the number on the other ..

Well, tbf, you assumed Osem was calling Tories toffs, when that was not his intention, so there was confusion all around.

[Osem]

Yeah I'm a well known Labour supporter...

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Gary L

He voted Labour. he just pretends he don't like them to distract you

He's doing a good job

[Hom3r]

I'd rather have the cow Sturgeon run the country than the current idiot, and I hate her with a passion, like my granddad would.