Could this be the year of major problems

[Osem]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

Brilliant article I hope those who are constantly deriding the unemployed and using El Govs terms as skivers all read that and digest it. I fear though most will not want to see beyond the trees to find the wood

Nobody I know thinks all the unemployed are scroungers and I don't think I've heard anyone else say that either. There are skivers in all walks of life and the unemployed are no different.

Originally Posted by Osem

Nobody I know thinks all the unemployed are scroungers and I don't think I've heard anyone else say that either. There are skivers in all walks of life and the unemployed are no different.

What he said

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Doesn't help when MPs are demanding more money, as they say they deserve it.

Thats a kick in the nuts if l have ever heard it.

You making stuff up again arthur ,MP's are not demanding more money at all

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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

No one yet has said anything about the figures. 2.52 million unemployed less than 500000 jobs available tell me how can they all be workshy when there is only a few jobs to go around and the unemployment figures are going up with the ATOS interviews

What's to say ,i think the last time we had 100% employment was during the war and even then we had lazy scroungers .I cannot ever see a time when we will have enough jobs for everyone

[peanut]

Originally Posted by martyh

You making stuff up again arthur ,MP's are not demanding more money at all

When you see headlines such as 'All in the trough together: Greedy MPs slammed for insisting they deserve £20,000 pay rise - Lib Dems thought they should be paid £78,361 on average, Labour MPs £77,322 while the Tories want £96,740 – a 48% rise'

It is quite easy to think they are 'demanding it' don't you think.

Originally Posted by peanut

When you see headlines such as 'All in the trough together: Greedy MPs slammed for insisting they deserve £20,000 pay rise - Lib Dems thought they should be paid £78,361 on average, Labour MPs £77,322 while the Tories want £96,740 – a 48% rise'

It is quite easy to think they are 'demanding it' don't you think.

No ,because if you read it you will see that it was a survey carried out to find out what MP's thought their jobs where worth .

[peanut]

Originally Posted by martyh

No ,because if you read it you will see that it was a survey carried out to find out what MP's thought their jobs where worth .

I didn't say that, I was on about the headline themselves. With words such as 'insist' and 'want', it's easy to see how it can be construed. Besides, I'm sure they'll get what they want in the end.

[slowcoach]

Originally Posted by peanut

I didn't say that, I was on about the headline themselves. With words such as 'insist' and 'want', it's easy to see how it can be construed. Besides, I'm sure they'll get what they want in the end.

I'm sure it will all be very democratic and put to the vote....

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I have been told if i get a pay rise i will be lucky ?. Why can't i have a guaranteed pay rise every bloody year.

Virgin Media normally only give out pay rises in accordance with an employees performance.

You need to ask yourself if you have done anything, in or out of work, to help or hinder the company in the last year or so, with regards to profitability, customer care, customer retention etc

[Mr_love_monkey]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Mod edit - unnecessary post removed

Rich?

More like "comfortable", but thanks for asking....

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I have been told if i get a pay rise i will be lucky ?. Why can't i have a guaranteed pay rise every bloody year.

thats what happens when your robbed of your union rights -all you get is the crumbs from the masters table unless they go to the dogs of course , lowly workers don't need money to survive they should just be great-full they have a job -just doff your cap and tug on your forelock and step back on the treadmill

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

thats what happens when your robbed of your union rights -all you get is the crumbs from the masters table unless they go to the dogs of course , lowly workers don't need money to survive they should just be great-full they have a job -just doff your cap and tug on your forelock and step back on the treadmill

Well they can't be so bad if they provide free gym facilities to their employees...

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Virgin Media normally only give out pay rises in accordance with an employees performance.

You need to ask yourself if you have done anything, in or out of work, to help or hinder the company in the last year or so, with regards to profitability, customer care, customer retention etc

If you know our system then you will know what a 5 is, i know that end of year appraisal very well indeed and have done for a good few years now need i say more. other than you are entitled to your view, even if it is incorrect.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Mod edit - unnecessary post removed

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

thats what happens when your robbed of your union rights -all you get is the crumbs from the masters table unless they go to the dogs of course , lowly workers don't need money to survive they should just be great-full they have a job -just doff your cap and tug on your forelock and step back on the treadmill.

Nail and head seems to fit this post nicely

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

step back on the treadmill

Never got off it i have far to much work to do.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

What is so annoying is that IF MPs think they are worth all that money, to argue the toss over government policies, then police officers are worth double.

MPs cannot justify that sort of wage, we have young coppers going on the streets of London risking there lives for £19.000 - £20.000 per year for us, and they have been told that they won't get a pay rise for two years.

I know of three great mates of mine in the job, who get injured, abused, and get fully stressed, and are now planning on leaving due to the cutbacks in there money and the risk of losing there jobs due to the cutbacks, and yet you have overpaid puppets in Parliament, who do nothing but cut this country to bits - saying they deserve more money - l dont so.

[RichardCoulter]

And MP's have suggested to the commons expenses watchdog that they deserve a 32% increases in their pay to £86,250 a year!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20978487

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Originally Posted by Sirius

If you know our system then you will know what a 5 is, i know that end of year appraisal very well indeed and have done for a good few years now need i say more. other than you are entitled to your view, even if it is incorrect.

A 5 won't pay for the ever increasing cost of living ie food, fuel etc.

Discretionary pay increases take allsorts of things into account, many of which aren't transparent or documented.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

And MP's have suggested to the commons expenses watchdog that they deserve a 32% increases in their pay to £86,250 a year!!!

This just enforces peoples view that it really is about them against us.

and the way it works is we'll say 32% is way too much (they know we will object) and they'll say you can have 25% instead. and we'll say Victory! power to the people! and they thought they'd get away with it but we told them otherwise.

they'll just smirk and wink at each other.

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Dave would normally say to this kind of thing where people want money that the country hasn't got. this is preposterous! and get a little bit angry.

but surprise surprise. he's not.