National ‘papers censor perceived racist Hammer Attack Sentencing story

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

You did what you appear to normally do - make assumptions based in insufficient evidence, then get shirty and defensive when this is pointed out.

I am not suggesting anything of the sort - I think the site is even-handed. It's just that you seemed surprised that a site which you thought was run by Asians was unbiased, and I just pointed out that the site was owned and managed by that well-known left-wing biased group, Guardian Media.

You really need to work out the difference between someone correcting your invalid assumptions (which are usually at the expense of ethnic minorities, strangely enough) and condescencion - there's a world of difference.

My view on the site was that if anything it highlighted Asian crime, I was surprised at first because it seemed biased towards dragging up all the crimes committed by Asians it could find.

My assumption was valid and based on the amount of stories about asian run businesses, I applaud the site for not being like other large organisations that choose not to report any stories that may be politically or racially incorrect in some peoples eyes.

How can your assumption that it was an Asian site

The site although asian is very unbiased

be valid, when it is owned and published by Guardian Media?

What you stated

My view on the site was that if anything it highlighted Asian crime

points out, imho, our different viewpoints - my view on the site was that it presented what it believed was of interest to the British Asian community, warts and all; I didn't think it highlighted "Asian crime", I thought it highlighted all the things that were happening that may be of interest to them.

I suppose it depends what you're looking for........

[Xaccers]

So do people believe this was a racist attack because people of two ethnic backgrounds were involved, in which case wasn't the victim's planned attack on an asian youth in a 1on1 fight a racist attack?
Or is it because a white boy was the victime, or is it because there were more asians than whites?

I ask because I've yet to see anything which suggests it was a racially motivated attack.

[basa]

Seems this thread has been hijacked again to turn it into a racist v non racist diatribe.

I thnk the point of the OP was the news of the attack was not reported accurately not not reported at all.

Lets see:

White beats up white = assault
Black beats up black = assault
Asian beats up asian = assault
Asian beats up white = assault
White beats up asian = racially aggravated assault.

erm, as pointed out earlier, the initial attack was reported in the local and national media, then the judge placed reporting restrictions on the case, and then when the verdict (and later, the sentences) was announced, it was again reported in the local and national media.

Must be a new definition of "not reported at all" I hadn't come across before..........

Please remember, the original source of this thread was from a site who also alleged ballot rigging due to unsealed ballot boxes, when the supposed photographic evidence showed it was 90 minutes after the count had started (and in case anyone cries "off-topic", surely the provenance of the original allegation has relevance to the thread).

[trevortt]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

erm, as pointed out earlier, the initial attack was reported in the local and national media, then the judge placed reporting restrictions on the case, and then when the verdict (and later, the sentences) was announced, it was again reported in the local and national media.

Must be a new definition of "not reported at all" I hadn't come across before..........

Please remember, the original source of this thread was from a site who also alleged ballot rigging due to unsealed ballot boxes, when the supposed photographic evidence showed it was 90 minutes after the count had started (and in case anyone cries "off-topic", surely the provenance of the original allegation has relevance to the thread).

Incorrect..the original source was from...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

And stop going off topic foreverwar with your hate for the BNP..i am sick of you going on about them like they are a parasite party...they are a legitimate party...get over it.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by trevortt

Incorrect..the original source was from...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

And stop going off topic foreverwar with your hate for the BNP..i am sick of you going on about them like they are a parasite party...they are a legitimate party...get over it.

Just because they're a legitimate party doesn't mean that they aren't also parasites on society...

[trevortt]

Originally Posted by Nugget

Just because they're a legitimate party doesn't mean that they aren't also parasites on society...

So there parasite to 'some' people..get over it. There is no need to keep going on about it.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by trevortt

So there parasite to 'some' people..get over it. There is no need to keep going on about it.

Well, it's a valid opinion, which we're allowed to express. Just, in fact, as the BNP are allowed to express theirs.

However, my opinion is that the BNP are a bigotted, extreme right-wing, racist group of people, who keep populating their website with these stories in an attempt to prove that white Britons are routinely discriminated against because of the colour of their skin. As a result, my opinion is also that the BNP are morons.

They'd disagree with this, but freedom of speech and expression are two of the things that make this country great. The BNP isn't...

Originally Posted by Nugget

Well, it's a valid opinion, which we're allowed to express. Just, in fact, as the BNP are allowed to express theirs.

However, my opinion is that the BNP are a bigotted, extreme right-wing, racist group of people, who keep populating their website with these stories in an attempt to prove that white Britons are routinely discriminated against because of the colour of their skin. As a result, my opinion is also that the BNP are morons.

They'd disagree with this, but freedom of speech and expression are two of the things that make this country great. The BNP isn't...

Not only the BNP would disagree with that.

I'm trying to think of some more things that make this country great... The benefits system, the NHS, our Police, our armed forces, our great British TV, Football, British Politics, The Royal Family, our justice system, education, the great British public, our great British transport, freedom to speak our minds without fear, and finally, our great sense of humour, and don't we need it! There must be many more things that make Great Britain GREAT.

Originally Posted by trevortt

Incorrect..the original source was from...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

And stop going off topic foreverwar with your hate for the BNP..i am sick of you going on about them like they are a parasite party...they are a legitimate party...get over it.

Once again, you cherry-pick parts of things that support your viewpoint, and ignore any salient information that may contradict it - strange, really, since you posted the OP.

, your original quote at the top of the OP, without a link

Out of interest your news team had a quick scan of the online versions of the national ‘papers this morning to see what, if anything, they reported on the Wroughton Hammer Attack sentencing story.

The result? It’s pretty much as we expected – wall-to-wall censorship. Well, the victim of this widely perceived racist crime was only a young native Briton after all, and as such of no real consequence! Henry Webster will therefore be added to a long and growing list of native British victims of racist violence ignored by the media – see here .

To be specific, we could find no mention in The Guardian, Independent, Daily Telegraph, Times, Daily Express or Sun.

The Labour supporting Daily Mirror provided a brief and highly “sanitised� mention – here it is in full:

A judge yesterday blasted a school where a teen was almost beaten to death with a hammer. Henry Webster suffered the beating – likened to a scene in a Tarantino film – at the tennis courts in Ridgeway School, Wroughton, Wilts, last year. It left him with three skull fractures and a brain injury. Nazrul Amin 19 , two 15-year-olds, a 16-year-old and a 17-year-old, all from Swindon, were jailed at Bristol Crown court yesterday. They were among 13 young men convicted for the attack. Judge Carol Hagen said: “What I find astonishing is not a single staff member was present when the bell went�.

The only national newspaper to produce a worthwhile report and one that, as predicted yesterday by us, would decline to make the point that one of the jailed thugs was the son of a local imam, was the Daily Mail. However, the Mail report was useful, inasmuch as it refers to racist incidents at the school prior to the cowardly hammer attack on lone Henry Webster – thus reinforcing the belief that this was indeed a racist crime. We quote:-

was from the BNP website ( http://www.bnp.org.uk/2008/05/nation...tencing-story/ - link provided later in the thread by JohnHorb) - you then also provided a link to the Daily Hate.

btw, I don't hate the BNP - I merely strongly dislike their xenophobic attitudes and their peurile, inaccurate attempts to stir up tension and hate.

It obviously strongly upsets you when people bring facts and reason into a discussion - ah well.............