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02-05-2008, 00:11

Just watched the Click inteview - well done Alexander!

I'd have required a stunt double for that handshake shot - I bet Kent had his fingers crossed behind his back so that it didn't count!

I'd have kept thinking about polonium-210 and how it got into someone else named Alexander who'd also upset Russian business men...

Pasanonic · 02-05-2008, 00:33

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Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter

It is with sadness that I must withdraw from this discussion for a while. An impending bereavement grows ever nearer and the right place for me to be at this time is with my family.

/snip

Until we meet again,

CJH

My condolences for you situation. My sincerest thanks for your efforts in this matter and my heartfelt wishes that we see you soon.
Go do what is important in life.

regards

Craig

popper · 02-05-2008, 00:41

care of R jones on betaBT
http://www.brandrepublic.com/DMDaily...datory-opt-in/

go educate the readers there....

Capt thanks for your time on this matter so far ,but as you say , your place is by your familys side in this time of need.

as already said, our thoughts are with you.

mark777 · 02-05-2008, 00:56

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Originally Posted by popper

care of R jones on betaBT
http://www.brandrepublic.com/DMDaily...datory-opt-in/

go educate the readers there....
...

Better get a disposable e-mail address first though. Anything you give to these vultures will be spam-fodder for the next millenium!

unicus · 02-05-2008, 01:31

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Originally Posted by popper

care of R jones on betaBT
http://www.brandrepublic.com/DMDaily...datory-opt-in/

Huh, how did she get the job of DMA chairman without understanding the basics

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Better get a disposable e-mail address first though.

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Florence · 02-05-2008, 01:47

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Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter

Until we meet again,

CJH

My thoughts are with you and your family at this time, I am sure you will return with more information but give yourself time to heal or help others in the family heal.

Alexander good job you could tell he was annoyed from his pose in the video infact if he could he would have been rocking back and forth shouting no no no it isnt like that.

MPO anyway after his part rock before he butted in..

tdadyslexia · 02-05-2008, 02:19

Capt thanks for your time on this matter so far, your place is with your family at this time of need.

Just watched the Click video good job Alexander you kept composed and cool. More than I would have.

OF1975 · 02-05-2008, 08:01

Thank you for all your time and effort Capt. Your efforts on this matter have been greatly appreciated. Go be with your family and take care. Deepest sympathies.

Dephormation · 02-05-2008, 08:45

I was trying to think of a simple way to explain the difference between Phorm and Google to web masters and less tech literate people...

Google:
Uses keywords from your page content to bring visitors to your web site.

Phorm:
Uses keywords from your page content to draw visitors to someone else's web site.

jelv · 02-05-2008, 09:27

Interim answer from Plusnet:

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Originally Posted by Neil_A

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Originally Posted by jelv

Is one of the Plusnet family of vISPs delivering targeted advertising based on a users browsing?

Hmmm. Never heard of Front Porch and am sure there's nothing like that in what's left of the Brightview network, but have asked the team to go away and come back here to confirm the situation.

Neil Armstrong
Products Director, PlusNet
http://www.plus.net | http://community.plus.net | http://www.madasafish.com

Source: http://community.plus.net/forum/inde...html#msg517872

AlexanderHanff · 02-05-2008, 10:19

Just reading about Labour's dreadful result in the local elections so far, forecast to be their worst defeat in 40 years and placing them 3rd (yes even Lib Dems have done better than them) place nationally.

Now I know Labour have made a lot of mistakes and continually lied to the public, continually increased taxes and stealth taxes, increased the cost of living and shown little regard for issues such as Data Protection, Bank Charges, War on Iraq etc., but it is safe to say the electorate now have them by the balls.

Every single letter you send to a Labour MP from now on, make sure you include a little footnote regarding the local elections and making it clear to them if you are not happy with their response you will be voting for the opposition in the generals next year.

Brown's pants must be erm...well brown this morning. Must be scary to have the most powerful job in the country whilst at the same time having the least secure

Labour Party = Epic Fail! (and yes I voted for them in the 97 generals)

Alexander Hanff

Stuart · 02-05-2008, 10:54

Not sure if someone has posted this, but Virgin Media appear to be distancing themselves (slightly) from Phorm..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...rm_misleading/

AlexanderHanff · 02-05-2008, 10:57

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

Not sure if someone has posted this, but Virgin Media appear to be distancing themselves (slightly) from Phorm..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...rm_misleading/

It was the talk of the day yesterday

I think investors are too tied up in the local elections to be doing much this morning, I expect we will see lots of action on the markets this afternoon.

Alexander Hanff

Traduk · 02-05-2008, 11:19

Alex,

Well done in the "Click" program.

There is no way that I have the confidence, courage or fortitude to go face to face on national TV, but there was one point he made that would have been a Godsend to my line of arguement.

Sites know and register IP's that visit. The custodian of the identity behind that IP is our ISP and we trust them to only release our true identity under legally appropriate demands, supported with a court order. ISP's are our gateway keepers and are in a position where we place in them a very high level of trust.

Although the anonymity arguement, with Phorm, tries to assuage the fear of loss of trust, it is the principle that the ISP's will sell our data for thirty pieces of silver that IMO makes them untrustworthy. I suspect that Phorm is the beginning of a slippery slope of exploitation and if the ISP's are to retain integrity they must reject exploitation before it begins.

If it's of interest..... years ago many ISP's were temporarily black-listed as they were open to "spam relays". That issue was resolved very quickly because ISP's could have been destroyed. The modern internet is fairly useless without major search engines and it would\could be more than interesting if "Google" et al banned IP blocks from data miners like Phorm. We tolerate what Google does because we need their service but we do not need Phorm and Google presumably do not need a parasite feeding off of them. Search engines block the parasitic IP's and problem solved in the blink of an eye.

AlexanderHanff · 02-05-2008, 11:25

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Originally Posted by Traduk

Alex,

Well done in the "Click" program.

There is no way that I have the confidence, courage or fortitude to go face to face on national TV, but there was one point he made that would have been a Godsend to my line of arguement.

International TV hehehe Click is on the BBC World network. To be honest I was nervous for the days leading up to the interview but I wasn't when I arrived, the BBC team were easy to get along with.

The interview was more of a frustration than a worry given that Kent seems to have a problem with running his mouth and insisted on rudely interrupting everything I tried to say. But it seems he is our strongest asset in our anti-phorm fight so I am not that concerned. He should leave the PR to the expensive PR teams he has hired, he is doing more damage to his cause than good.

Alexander Hanff