ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Nildram on ADSL is outperforming me like for like right now so if this is supposed to be state of the art its worrying

Simple there is grass on the other side. If it is that bad with NTL then its your choice who you have as your supplier. You are not forced by me or any other to use a individual service provider. It is your choice if you want to use Broadband Tv or phone and by whom it is supplied.

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Simple there is grass on the other side. If it is that bad with NTL then its your choice who you have as your supplier. You are not forced by me or any other to use a individual service provider. It is your choice if you want to use Broadband Tv or phone and by whom it is supplied.

he's forced by his landlord to not have a BT line if I recall correctly.

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

he's forced by his landlord to not have a BT line if I recall correctly.

that is shocking, I stand corrected

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Simple there is grass on the other side. If it is that bad with NTL then its your choice who you have as your supplier. You are not forced by me or any other to use a individual service provider. It is your choice if you want to use Broadband Tv or phone and by whom it is supplied.

that might be true if they forced cable operators to allow other cable companies to use thier wires ( cables or what ever )

[th'engineer]

Originally Posted by Bill C

And you have rock solid proof of this do you.? If so please print it here --->

Seem to remember a network a few years ago that a certain company had to many customers and could not afford the upgrades hence the cap .
Proof from the Goodland interview seem to remember
Have missed me Bill

Originally Posted by rogermevans

that might be true if they forced cable operators to allow other cable companies to use thier wires ( cables or what ever )

Prey tell why they should. The cable network was built with private money not public like BT.

So does that mean if you own your own house you should be made to let other people use your house. Same principle
__________________

Originally Posted by th'engineer

Seem to remember a network a few years ago that a certain company had to many customers and could not afford the upgrades hence the cap .
Proof from the Goodland interview seem to remember
Have missed me Bill

Bill Goodland cap Stuck record


This is today not last year. Since when have you been in the headends and hub sites and done a detailed inspection. What we have today is nothing like it was. Stop living in the past wake up and smell the coffee. . When you do have the full statistics and facts come back and post them to backup you statements.

Again you say you are going Bulldog. Well it is in your area. If we are that bad give them a call If you can get them on the phone. Try phoning there tech support and see how long it takes. If you cannot get them i can always get my m8 to call you he works for them, I am sure he will tell you what its like

[rogerdraig]

[QUOTE=Bill C]Prey tell why they should. The cable network was built with private money not public like BT.

So does that mean if you own your own house you should be made to let other people use your house. Same principle


lol

well actualy there are all ready loads of people who can trapse though your house when ever they wish

but back to the point people are right to be fed up when others are getting better offers

as to poor ntl hsving built all this with thier own money so what they or rather the people they bought out got the opertunity to lay all that lovely cable to give us more choice and lower bills suposedly ( though i dont belive much polititions tell us lol ) now if the only competition they need to worry about is BT then there is not much in the way of competition

opening up all networks might actualy be the way to go

[QUOTE=rogermevans]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Prey tell why they should. The cable network was built with private money not public like BT.

So does that mean if you own your own house you should be made to let other people use your house. Same principle


lol

well actualy there are all ready loads of people who can trapse though your house when ever they wish

but back to the point people are right to be fed up when others are getting better offers

as to poor ntl having built all this with their own money so what they or rather the people they bought out got the opportunity to lay all that lovely cable to give us more choice and lower bills supposedly ( though i don't believe much politicians tell us lol ) now if the only competition they need to worry about is BT then there is not much in the way of competition

opening up all networks might actually be the way to go

Anyway we already have. AOL use our cable network. And they paid a lot of money to do so. On that bases then role on others using the cable network and paying lots of money to us for using it . Its a privately owned network and if others want access then they will have to pay for it just like AOL .

[Stuart]

[QUOTE=rogermevans]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Prey tell why they should. The cable network was built with private money not public like BT.

So does that mean if you own your own house you should be made to let other people use your house. Same principle


lol

Only if the government spent loads of money building your house, then sold it to you for a few pounds (which, IIRC happened with the BT phone network - they sold billions of pounds of networking equipment to BT for a few pounds).

well actualy there are all ready loads of people who can trapse though your house when ever they wish

Not quite. AFAIK, there are only a few groups of people who can enter your house without your permission and without a warrant.

as to poor ntl hsving built all this with thier own money so what they or rather the people they bought out got the opertunity to lay all that lovely cable to give us more choice and lower bills suposedly ( though i dont belive much polititions tell us lol ) now if the only competition they need to worry about is BT then there is not much in the way of competition

opening up all networks might actualy be the way to go

When NTL took on the smaller cable companies, they took on the debts incurred building the networks. This nearly bankrupted them. They are still paying off one of the largest debts in corporate history. Forcing NTL to open their network (although, as Bill C says, it already is open to those who wish to pay) could actually bankrupt NTL. So, less competition.

In the mean while, if NTL's prices do cause you concern, there *is* competition in the market. AOL on the NTL network, and the various ADSL providers. You'll also find BT is quite competitive when it comes to costs.


to CabelForum BTW

[Monserrat]

Living in the uni halls, I was hooked up on a T1 connection. Pretty good I must say, having it from the luxery of the bedroom. This goes back to 1999 when I started uni. Because it was my first PC, it was pretty much my first Internet experience.

Going back home in the summer on 56K dial-up for the first time was a bit of a shock!

Then I became an NTL customer from October 2002 onwards. I saw the speesds go up from 512K to 600K and 750K. I was all too glad to see the new speed increase go up to 2M which is more than a T1.

Now, there are talks of a 10M speed. Is there really any need for that? The only benefits here go to movie pirates. Other than that, you can legally download a 100 meg game demo or the massively-bloated 230-odd-megabyte 3D Mark benchmark tool. After that, you start to run out of ideas.

I would personally prefer to see smaller speed increases, but compensate by having the entire NTL customer services and tech support based in the UK. Really, is there much money saved by speaking to Indian people across long-distance calls? I wear two hearing aids so I don't follow their accents very well. Even the ordinary mortal has difficulties.

So less bandwidth increases and UK support centres would be more reassuring.

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[ikthius]

Originally Posted by Monserrat

Living in the uni halls, I was hooked up on a T1 connection. Pretty good I must say, having it from the luxery of the bedroom. This goes back to 1999 when I started uni. Because it was my first PC, it was pretty much my first Internet experience.

Going back home in the summer on 56K dial-up for the first time was a bit of a shock!

Then I became an NTL customer from October 2002 onwards. I saw the speesds go up from 512K to 600K and 750K. I was all too glad to see the new speed increase go up to 2M which is more than a T1.

Now, there are talks of a 10M speed. Is there really any need for that? The only benefits here go to movie pirates. Other than that, you can legally download a 100 meg game demo or the massively-bloated 230-odd-megabyte 3D Mark benchmark tool. After that, you start to run out of ideas.

I would personally prefer to see smaller speed increases, but compensate by having the entire NTL customer services and tech support based in the UK. Really, is there much money saved by speaking to Indian people across long-distance calls? I wear two hearing aids so I don't follow their accents very well. Even the ordinary mortal has difficulties.

So less bandwidth increases and UK support centres would be more reassuring.

why not, we are behind a lot of other countries in terms of speed.

ik

[Nemesis]

Supply and demand .... supply and demand.

Who actually needs the faster speeds. I would much prefer better CS and additional services rather than constant speed increases.

[punky]

I'd prefer to see greater upload speeds personally. Cap it all at 5mbps symmetrically, like SDSL, and more consistant, lower latentcies.

Even before you get 10mbps, the speed at which servers can give that to you normally limited to the real big companies like Microsoft etc.

[KevAmiga]

I agree... better customer service should be a priority.

[etccarmageddon]

higher speeds = more customers = more dosh = more money to invest in customer services.

you can of course scew up e.g. bulldog if you dont get it right.