Brexit (Old)

Originally Posted by Hugh

The colours are for different scales on each map - on the leave map the scales are



and on the Rescind Article 50 map they are

You don't say - I am well aware of that - but it does not negate my point at all.

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Originally Posted by jfman

You know what they says Hugh.

Lies, damned lies and statistics.

You better not be accusing me of lying!!!

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mick

Which is exactly why I chose the ones I highlighted above - they are the opposite of each other.

The difference in the deep reds says it all - people have not changed their minds. It's just a pathetic fallacy by Remainers in Parliament trying to get another divisive Referendum.

Unless the sample size is about 34 million it’s impossible to use those graphs to derive anything meaningful.

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Originally Posted by Mick

You don't say - I am well aware of that - but it does not negate my point at all.

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You better not be accusing me of lying!!!

It wasn’t my intention to accuse anyone of lying.

It’s just an old saying about how statistics can sometimes be used to give a meaning that they actually don’t if you dig deeper. No offence intended.

They do have meaning - it shows people have not changed their minds on leaving the EU.

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Originally Posted by jfman

Unless the sample size is about 34 million it’s impossible to use those graphs to derive anything meaningful.

I'll remember that next time you quote a Data Poll result on this subject matter.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

The tide is turning, rapidly.... Even her own ministers seem to be ignoring TM now.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...nd-referendum/

Remember, these are Remainers who are keen to thwart Brexit. They are part of the anti-democratic tendency that wishes to take advantage of the parliamentary deadlock.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by jfman

Unless the sample size is about 34 million it’s impossible to use those graphs to derive anything meaningful.

We had a sample size of about 34 million which gave a meaningful leave result.
We called it a referendum.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by pip08456

We had a sample size of about 34 million which gave a meaningful leave result.
We called it a referendum.

Unless you have two you can’t measure change

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Remember, these are Remainers who are keen to thwart Brexit. They are part of the anti-democratic tendency that wishes to take advantage of the parliamentary deadlock.

They are also Ministers, part of the Government. Will they be sacked ? If not then it implies its the Govt's thoughts too.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jfman

Unless you have two you can’t measure change

What a contrivance. A second referendum just to measure any change of opinion. Jeez.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Mick

I suspect millions of People did not vote to leave based on promises made, I certainly did not - I took absolutely no notice of ANY campaigns because my mind was made up for leaving years before any campaigns began.

Parliament is full of Pro EU loons who are putting their own personal beliefs before the peoples, who gave them an instruction to leave the EU and yes I say instruction because that is what they did, they passed the sovereign choice to us to decide and we decided to leave the EU, (I will not be told otherwise by anybody!!!).

Just because you didn't take any notice of the campaigns doesn't mean others did. You speak for yourself and yourself alone. If others want second vote based on what we know now, that's a fair opinion to have.

Originally Posted by Mythica

Just because you didn't take any notice of the campaigns doesn't mean others did. You speak for yourself and yourself alone. If others want second vote based on what we know now, that's a fair opinion to have.

On that footing - I guess then that this is just your opinion then.

Originally Posted by techguyone

Shamelessly copied from another forum, but I liked it and agree with it.

Again then what the public say and how they're react if things go wrong might be very different. It's all very well for people to say 'we know the consequences, we just want OUT' but as soon as their personal situation is impacted a lot will blame the politicians.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Mick

On that footing - I guess then that this is just your opinion then.

Of course it is. The problem comes when you believe democracy means lies.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

They are also Ministers, part of the Government. Will they be sacked ? If not then it implies its the Govt's thoughts too.

Amber Rudd in particular, throughout the last 2 years has been seditious in relation to the Referendum result, Along with Hammond.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What a contrivance.

Could you amend the quote in that post Seph? It makes it look as though the comment was mine.

[jfman]

Rudd is the most interesting one. She’s only returned and is going against the Party line.