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				Wow. What I wouldn't give to have the old blueyonder back    
			
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			04-03-2008, 18:57
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Who monitors EY?    
			
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 The ICAEW in the UK or the AICPA in the USA.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2008, 19:18
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				I voted "No".  If this technology can help to catch paedophiles, I'm all for it.  Letting Phorm know about my browsing habits seems a very small price to pay. 
			
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 If I thought it would be used for that by the relevant people (i.e. law enforcement) then I wouldn't argue against it so strongly (in fact I agree with that particular use). But as Phorm had about as much interest in law enforcement as a fish does a bicycle then I don't agree with it.
 
Not to mention that their history is about as comforting as a bullet through the foot...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2008, 19:44
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			I've e-mailed Privacy International about Phorm's claim that PI have given the technology the thumbs up.  Here's an except: 
 
"Phorm are claiming (as per the page at  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02...ing/page2.html) that  Privacy International have given the technology the thumbs-up.  I quote  directly from that page:  
 
"A spokesman rubbished the links to PeopleOnPage that have worried some Reg  readers. "The previous company was involved in the adware space, but that was  a long time ago," he said. "We're actually setting a whole new gold standard  in online privacy." He said Privacy International had given the technology the  thumbs-up."  
 
I have used the search facility to search for "Phorm" and found nothing.  
 
Please could you confirm what "thumbs-up" or other endorsements PI have given  to Phorm.  I would appreciate it if you could be as clear and precise as  possible so that I can pass your information on to other concerned people. " 
 
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			04-03-2008, 19:55
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Anything to do with this? 
"RIAA chief calls for copyright filters on PCs"
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02...for_end_users/
You can bet that this goes well beyond what is currently being discussed. 
 
The ultimate aim is a Chinese-style internet service...
 
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			04-03-2008, 20:03
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			good bye Vm, nice knowing you 
 
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			04-03-2008, 20:05
			
			
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				good bye Vm, nice knowing you 
 
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			04-03-2008, 20:09
			
			
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				ditto, and i can hear that echoed from others    
			
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 Any recommendations for a decent non-Phorm ISP who actually knows something about Linux?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2008, 20:11
			
			
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				ditto, and i can hear that echoed from others    
			
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 I'm all for stopping peados however, i think this go way beyond.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2008, 20:23
			
			
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				Any recommendations for a decent non-Phorm ISP who actually knows something about Linux? 
			
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 There's a list of Phorm-free isp's here -  http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugi...ewforum.php?11
Not sure if any of them speak Linux though.
 
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			04-03-2008, 20:49
			
			
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				ditto, and i can hear that echoed from others    
			
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 As i pointed out early today. Be Unlimited have confirmed via email to me that they are NOT going to sign up to Phorm spyware. Thats my next ISP should VM go the wrong way as far as Opt in Opt Out goes.
 
 Be member services <memberservices@beunlimited.co.uk> 	 
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Thank you for contacting us. I would like to inform you that we are not intending to sign up with Phorm. Also in order to have our service you should have a working BT phone line.
 
If you have any further questions feel free to contact at 0808 234 8566.
	 
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			04-03-2008, 20:59
			
			
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				Anything to do with this? 
"RIAA chief calls for copyright filters on PCs"
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02...for_end_users/
You can bet that this goes well beyond what is currently being discussed. 
 
The ultimate aim is a Chinese-style internet service...
 
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Any recommendations for a decent non-Phorm ISP who actually knows something about Linux? 
			
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 What does Linux have to do with this?  BB is TCP/IP not Linux or OSX or Vista.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2008, 21:37
			
			
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			Dont know if anyone has put this up, but i've come across a online petition. 
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ispphorm/
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2008, 21:41
			
			
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				What does Linux have to do with this?  BB is TCP/IP not Linux or OSX or Vista. 
			
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 Some ISPs, such as VM   , make it difficult to report faults with their BB, if you are running linux.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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