Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window - Page 332

Shadow Demon UK · 25-01-2014, 21:49

Panic buy! Moyes out!

Russ · 25-01-2014, 22:15

As good a player as Mata is, we still have a gaping hole in midfield. My view of Moyes has not improved.

Dave42 · 25-01-2014, 22:43

be interesting to see where United play Mata

thenry · 25-01-2014, 22:59

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this transfer makes huge financial sense to us at Chelsea.

http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3638303/title/mata-moves-to-manchester-united

Russ · 25-01-2014, 23:24

It obviously made sense - someone who wasn't being played got sold with almost £15m profit. It was a good piece of business for them.

**Damien** · 25-01-2014, 23:26

It is still is all very weird. I can't quite understand why Chelsea seemed fine with this deal when they didn't want to sell him to PSG just a few months ago. Maybe it does make some sense for them in meeting FFP, which would be an good sign, but Manchester City will probably be the ones to test and break FFP anyway and I imagine Chelsea will then follow suit along with everyone else once that happens.

Maybe the size of the bid and a perception that it isn't what United need most that made them willing to do the deal. Maybe it leaves less money for a big signing where United are weak but if United are willing to go beyond £20 million for Luke Shaw then transfer funds are clearly not a problem for Moyes. Hell rumours are Rooney will get nearer £300,000 a week!

Dave42 · 25-01-2014, 23:53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKfV4TU1kI

funny WHAT'S THE MATA - MAN U, HEY note did not post video in here as swearing in it so just link

thenry · 26-01-2014, 00:58

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Originally Posted by Damien

It is still is all very weird. I can't quite understand why Chelsea seemed fine with this deal when they didn't want to sell him to PSG just a few months ago.

Thats an interesting one. After missing out on Ozil there were reports everywhere in France that Mata was top of PSGs list. Ozil cost 42m£. May be Chelsea didnt want to strengthen them further like Arsenal ? or it may just have been Chelsea need of depth, Jose did bang on about needing a proper squad for all comps.

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Originally Posted by Damien

Maybe it does make some sense for them in meeting FFP, which would be an good sign, but Manchester City will probably be the ones to test and break FFP anyway and I imagine Chelsea will then follow suit along with everyone else once that happens.

Man City get bank rolled by Mansours empire. What has Roman got to bank roll via 'third party' ?

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Originally Posted by Damien

Maybe the size of the bid and a perception that it isn't what United need most that made them willing to do the deal. Maybe it leaves less money for a big signing where United are weak but if United are willing to go beyond £20 million for Luke Shaw then transfer funds are clearly not a problem for Moyes. Hell rumours are Rooney will get nearer £300,000 a week!

Utd need a CL spot or they could face a squeeze at a time of needing to rebuild.

colin25 · 26-01-2014, 07:20

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Originally Posted by Damien

...... Maybe it does make some sense for them in meeting FFP, which would be an good sign, but Manchester City will probably be the ones to test and break FFP anyway and I imagine Chelsea will then follow suit along with everyone else once that happens.
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Man City have no issues with FFP. What evidence do you have that they do?

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

Panic buy! Moyes out!

In one sense it is. But a buy most would like in their team.

This is the opposite of the summer, where they prevaricated and made bids for players they were unlikely to get (particularly at the amounts they offered).

They seem to be looking for more players now, which makes for an interesting window

denphone · 26-01-2014, 07:43

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Originally Posted by Dave42

be interesting to see where United play Mata

Indeed it will Dave.

MalteseFalcon · 26-01-2014, 08:05

Well, this is my interest in the FA Cup done for this season. Will still be watching the draw later though, hoping Arsenal get Chelski in the next round.

Shadow Demon UK · 26-01-2014, 08:59

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Originally Posted by Damien

It is still is all very weird. I can't quite understand why Chelsea seemed fine with this deal when they didn't want to sell him to PSG just a few months ago. Maybe it does make some sense for them in meeting FFP, which would be an good sign, but Manchester City will probably be the ones to test and break FFP anyway and I imagine Chelsea will then follow suit along with everyone else once that happens.

Maybe the size of the bid and a perception that it isn't what United need most that made them willing to do the deal. Maybe it leaves less money for a big signing where United are weak but if United are willing to go beyond £20 million for Luke Shaw then transfer funds are clearly not a problem for Moyes. Hell rumours are Rooney will get nearer £300,000 a week!

Or Mourinho is still desperate to stay friendly with united

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Originally Posted by colin25

Man City have no issues with FFP. What evidence do you have that they do?

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In one sense it is. But a buy most would like in their team.

This is the opposite of the summer, where they prevaricated and made bids for players they were unlikely to get (particularly at the amounts they offered).

They seem to be looking for more players now, which makes for an interesting window

I don't think you can ever call signing a proven, world class player as a panic buy. Maybe if it's the only signing we make it could be considered a little panicky otherwise I don't buy that idea.

colin25 · 26-01-2014, 09:20

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

Or Mourinho is still desperate to stay friendly with united

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I don't think you can ever call signing a proven, world class player as a panic buy. Maybe if it's the only signing we make it could be considered a little panicky otherwise I don't buy that idea.

I base that on two points. Man Utd needed to do something, or the season could potentially get worse. And the current assessment is that Mata is duplicating what you have (someone to play behind the striker), whilst a more out and out central midfielder is needed.

But...I did say..in one sense it is,,,hence my clarifying comments.

And, it is a player lots of clubs would like, my other caveat.

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I don't see Mourinho wanting to stay friendly with Man Utd...why would he?

denphone · 26-01-2014, 09:28

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984

Well, this is my interest in the FA Cup done for this season. Will still be watching the draw later though, hoping Arsenal get Chelski in the next round.

If Stevenage had got that early goal then it might have been more of a match Mark.

Russ · 26-01-2014, 09:29

I wouldn't call him a panic buy - Fellaini was that. Yes United desperately need another Keane/Scholes/Cantona but firepower was also needed. I'm still unconvinced by Welbeck, Hernandez has never shown the form from 2010, Januzaj is still developing and RVP has not been the player he was last season. Yes Rooney has been our best player so far but you've seen what happens when he's out of the team for any length of time.

So while Mata isn't the key signing Moyes needs, he IS a good signing and will benefit the team although the deal does have a feel of "Look, here's a big name" to it. Which is fine by me in this case.