Formula 1 2009 Season [may contain real time spoilers] - Page 33

Kymmy · 17-06-2009, 18:33

Lola has given up

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8105474.stm

CHiLL · 18-06-2009, 14:57

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Originally Posted by sherer

ALL the races are filmed by FOM now so nothing the BBC can do until they upgrade their equipment to film it in HD

I'm sure I've heard from the mid-race commentary (can't remember which commentator) that the race is recorded by a local TV company in that country. That's why we don't always see the action. That transmission is then sent to FOM, then to the broadcasters across the world.

Edit; I swear the Australian GP is recorded by some Australian TV company.

I could be wrong though.

sherer · 18-06-2009, 15:13

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Originally Posted by CHiLL

I'm sure I've heard from the mid-race commentary (can't remember which commentator) that the race is recorded by a local TV company in that country. That's why we don't always see the action. That transmission is then sent to FOM, then to the broadcasters across the world.

Edit; I swear the Australian GP is recorded by some Australian TV company.

I could be wrong though.

that used to be the case but then due to all the complaints and the fact that local directors would only focus on local drivers this was changed about 3 years ago. Now all races apart from Monaco, Japan and Brasil are done by FOM. The BBC will not be filming the British GP and so there isn't any HD available.

Fuji TV have filmed the Japanese GP in HD in the past but that is just locally the feed that goes international is still in SD.

This is discussed in depth over on DS if you want any more info

slug · 19-06-2009, 01:00

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Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, Toyota, BMW Sauber, Brawn GP, Red Bull Racing and Toro Rosso have all declined to enter F1 for 2010.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...315312027?f=vg

Turkey Machine · 19-06-2009, 01:51

Just to clarify, all the current F1 teams except Force India and Williams, who were suspended from FOTA for submitting unconditional entries for F1 2010, have announced as part of FOTA that a breakaway series is going to be formed.

Bernie, and Max especially, have some serious humbling to do if they want F1 to stay the premier motor racing series in the world.

Reminders of FISA/FOCA anyone? Or the super-licences row in 1982 that kept drivers out of practice until just before the South African Grand Prix?

Flyboy · 19-06-2009, 01:52

So, only ten cars for next season. This has the potential to sound the death knell for the sport. Ten cars is not enough to maintain a sustainable series.

dev · 19-06-2009, 03:18

It won't be ten, there was somewhere in the region of 10 to 15 new entry applications so no doubt they'll take the places of the FOTA teams.

sherer · 19-06-2009, 08:36

I still can't see a rival series getting off the ground this late in the year. This annoucement was made at midnight befre the FIA got their annoucement in. it was timed so that the FIA have time to back track before the deadline today

hedgie · 19-06-2009, 08:50

Personally I think it is time for Max and Bernie to go. I have religiously followed F1 and Motorsport in general since the early 80's. Bernie lost touch with the fans so long ago its untrue and Max seems totally unable to accept any form of compromise that would require him to back down.

For the sake of the sport and the innocents, like all the mechanics and engineers with the teams I really think the FIA must see compromise and, allow the teams a soft landing on the budget say three years to get to Â£50M budget. I also think the teams should have a say in the rules.

Just my two penneth.............

Kymmy · 19-06-2009, 09:10

I personally can't see F1 succesfully continuing without the major teams... For gawd sake Ferrari, Renault, Maclaren supporters make up more than half of the spectators..

Yes it would probably shake up the racing itself for the better making it more lively but so does for example non-league football but you don't see that on major TV...

I still wonder why the push for 2010 apps so early this year? and in line with the previous years I also think that this will be sorted and the big teams will be in F1 next year... Though it will be interesting over the next few days to see if any form of breakaway competition is seriously mentioned

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LOL, I typed the above without reading any of the stories apart from the headlines and lo and behold

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Formula 1 is thrown into chaos after eight of its major teams say they are now planning to set up a rival championship in 2010.

So 8 major teams against Max/Bernie and 2 major teams....

What would now be good is if Lotus, Lola and prodrive put thier support into the breakaway group and then the F1 would seriously have to look at the new championship..

The tracks (especially north america, silverstone

Kylami and others could make a major coup out of this...

Hom3r · 19-06-2009, 09:27

Bye bye Bernie & Max

SnoopZ · 19-06-2009, 10:07

More on it here.

Source: BBC

Kymmy · 19-06-2009, 10:29

Even better they're discussing it over the video of todays 10am practice session...On the BBC F1 site or the red button

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Whilst watching the practice and listening to the twaddle being banded across by whoever they can find in the commentary box it struck me that this in the end is really how a lot of race/other sports have gone...

Take for instance MotoGP and Superbikes, they're both two very succesful series, one with major restrictions the other more free..

The break away could do a Super-F1 series with all out technology, the americans, Aussies and a lot of other countries would love it.. Me I'd watch both.. That then would give a lot of the lower teams to enter an F1 with a budget cap and get themselves up and running

Just a thought

SnoopZ · 19-06-2009, 10:34

I'd be gutted if Sky got hold of the new series though meaning you would have to pay them to watch it live.

I'm hoping that it'll all be sorted out and Mosley will back down or risk breaking up F1 forever.

sherer · 19-06-2009, 11:14

I still can't see a breakaway series happening and this is all just talk to force the FIAs hand.

What the FIA have realised after Honda pulled out last year as that with a manufacturer dominated sport the manufacturers can pull out any time they like as Toyota and Renault want to do due to losing too much money.

The FIA are trying to get more sports teams into F1, teams that rely on F1 as their core business and not just for marketing reasons.

All the FOTA teams want is to use F1 for their own ends, they want to go where ever they can sell cars and advertise that fact, they aren't really bothered about the on track action and whether there is in any racing.

For marketing purposes a FOTA championship can't be on a subscription sports channel and then just sports fans will watch rather than the general public they are trying to sell cars to. ITV pulled out of F1 as they can't afford it and so on FTA channels that leaves C4 who it wouldn't fit in with and Channel 5.

There are also similar problems across the rest of the globe.

FOTA in 9 months now have to sign contracts with circuits that have to be FIA Grade 1 listed and not hosting a FIA F1 race as the F1 race contracts prevents other top level single seater championships from running. They have to get someone to run and police the series plus promotors. They need sponsorship contracts and a TV deal for every nation across the globe. They also need rules and have to deal with the fact they will also be in court with the FIA \ FOM for breaking existing contracts that tie them into F1.