Just had an NTL rep around and he said......... - Page 3

DaggaDagga · 17-03-2006, 13:13

From a quick google, it looks like 200Mb was once thought to be what was needed. I think anywhere between 6 and 14Mb is what we're going to end up with, after using MPEG4 and the broadcasters making their quality v cheapness decisions.

So you could stream HDTV down your existing, reliable 10Mb NTL connection without the slightest glitch or hiccup.

I'd be interested to know what rate Sky are using for their HDTV satellite trial, but I bet that's confidential info.

If HDTV is anything like OnDigital was, the "new improved" TV system will look almost as good as its predecessor, after they've compressed the quality out of it! I'd rather have standard-def at a higher bit rate than HDTV with loads of blocks and blurring in it.

Horizon · 17-03-2006, 13:45

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Why thank you for being so polite. :dozey:

A little harsh perhaps (it was late), by my comment was for the last few of your sentences. As a moderator and someone who reads these forums a lot, you must have realised that the last few sentences, not the 80-100mb stuff, was off kilter.

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If you re-read my post you'll find I was comparing the relative merits of 80Mb and 100Mb.

Yes I know.

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By my calculation there is a difference in download time of less than 10 seconds for your 700Mb file at those speeds.

What about a true hdtv show at about 10gb?

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Hence my conclusion that NTL would not offer tiers based on speed once the standard shifts into the region of 100Mb.

I agree, or at least I don't think ntl will offer one tier at 80mb and another at 100mb. What I'm saying is they are not going to offer tiers at those speeds anyway.
So I doub't in the near future, ntl are going to offer us a 24/7 100mb connection. What they are going to offer us, (as pointed out in one of cable forums news releases,) is the chance to access 100mb speeds. So what's the diffrence, one might ask? The diffrence is that rather than giving customers a 24/7 100mb connection, with the new modems ntl are trialling, you can press a speed boost button when downloading video and for a short time, can access higher speeds that are available. It might 100mb, 50mb, or even more than 100mb, if the speed is available at that moment in time.

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You will also see (if you re-read) that I said there is nothing you cannot already do at today's speeds that you could do at 80-100Mb. You say my example of HDTV is wrong, when in fact you prove my point by then talking about downloading HDTV files. You can in fact do this already. It would take a while longer at 10Mb than 100Mb, but it is perfectly practical.

A 10GB HDTV show would download a little faster at 100MB per sec rather than 10mb...And I know its perfectly practical to download at 10mb, just takes "more" than a while longer...

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What you *cannot* do, either at 10Mb or 100Mb, is stream it.

Yes you can. Look at Sky's tests right now.

Graham M · 17-03-2006, 13:46

I think youll find Sky's tests are heavily compressed

bongman_uk · 17-03-2006, 15:40

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...072201,00.html

Ok, probably a while till we see anything like it, but still!

Neil · 17-03-2006, 15:46

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...072201,00.html

Ok, probably a while till we see anything like it, but still!

Already being discussed here: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=44085