Saturated Upstream on 10mb (torrent related) - Page 3

BBKing · 08-01-2006, 08:13

Er, yes, you old son of a goat. Long time no etc.

Chrysalis · 08-01-2006, 08:46

Why not use a protocol that doesnt require you to upload?

p2p is very hard to get 10meg down it just isnt a great protocol.

JonathanLH · 08-01-2006, 11:35

no uploading? you mean like watching normal aerial tv, kind of hard to request what you want lol

Jim galbally · 08-01-2006, 13:14

which reminds me, my winTV card is playing up... lol

dunkyb · 08-01-2006, 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Why not use a protocol that doesnt require you to upload?

p2p is very hard to get 10meg down it just isnt a great protocol.

It's not me that uploads, unfortunately ... Brothers like to hammer it on the LAN. I'll soon be fully implementing some QoS

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darkone338 · 08-01-2006, 15:47

hey all,

suffering the same issue here, tho circumstances are slightly different.

Last week i had to call out NTL as my service went dead.. not even a flashing light on the modem (Terayon Terajet). Engineer came thursday and confirmed that someone had vandalised the box at the end of the street and my cable had been disconnected. He recitfied this and left.

I now am suffering this very issue.

I run a shoutcast server and have done for over 2 years, that takes 100kbits upload constantly (4 slots at 24kbps). Since the issue last week, if the shoutcast server is running and people are connected, I might as well not bother trying to download on either of my 2 machines, as its impossible. (The shoutcast server is on a seperate machine, and has never caused issues, even on the 10mbit service, prior to my engineers visit.)

Any other ideas anyone can come up with would be great...

Regards

Stu

Chrysalis · 08-01-2006, 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonathanLH

no uploading? you mean like watching normal aerial tv, kind of hard to request what you want lol

actually there are ways to download stuff of the internet without needing to upload.

dunkyb · 09-01-2006, 18:36

BBKing please do something! It is soooooooo pathetically slow

Im not used to waiting 10 secs for google to load, this sucks big style.

Pings are all over the place too. FFS.

Jim galbally · 09-01-2006, 20:21

i get the same dunky, websites load VERY slowly. even tho i'm traffic shaping on the PC itself.

could this be a limitation of the hardware? (ie the modems)

Prof-x · 09-01-2006, 23:41

i'm pretty much in the same boat. I dont think its anything to do directly with 10Mbit / upstreams or torrents.

I've been with NTL since the very start of broadband and we used to get a nice 512k solid and 15-30 pings to gameservers. Since broadband has become more affordable and readily available certain local area hotspots have become rather congested. With the introduction of faster speeds and many more connections we are seeing these problems with slow speeds and bad pings popping up all over the country.

NTL have done well with the UBR balancing scripts which try to AUTO sort customers so the UBR's are running smoothly. However we just need a little more capacity in certain areas to maintain happy customers. My UBR's are so busy on certain interfaces that life is just a constant battle with pings and packet loss due to congested upstreams. I like to play games and thats pretty much all i do with my broadband but i get disconnected from game servers because i lag out (cannot maintain a stable data flow and pings fluctuate into the 1000's). Although i do get lucky somtimes when they rebalance and i get moved to a quieter upstream.

I know some other people on NTL locally and they are connected to another card on the UBR and all is fine for them. I dont think this problem will get any better until NTL provide a little more capacity for the very busy areas. Thing is they have tonnes of bandwidth to play with its the local UBR's that seem to need a little help. Its a shame that they set their operating standards to 80 or 85% saturation because by about 70 / 75 with the fluctuations the service is just degraded and broadband becomes tedious for certain things.

The first step i say is more running regular balancing scripts like every day or so by default and a physical re-segmentation for heavily congested areas. Traffic shapping to give P2P ports lowest priority would also be nice but that will never happen.

Do NTL still have p2p cache

dunkyb · 10-01-2006, 06:39

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Originally Posted by Prof-x

I know some other people on NTL locally and they are connected to another card on the UBR and all is fine for them.

Yeah that's the same here! I think they are on U/S 5 or 6, and I'm on 4.. A completely different story.