22-03-2017, 16:30
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Re: Football sex abuse
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Where does he say that? He wasn't talking about all gay men and he wasn't talking about all paedophiles. He was ONLY talking about the men that abused young boys. That would make them gay and a paedophile.
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Adults who find children sexually attractive aren't gay or straight, they're paedophiles.
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Which ones worse? The only sexual predilection Eric should've mentioned is the one for children imo
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Agreed.
Its just been on the news that Barry Burnell has pleaded not guilty to the charges of sexually abusing young boys.
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22-03-2017, 19:03
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Re: Football sex abuse
Reports now saying that he will face a further appearance before a court in Liverpool in July, with his trial expected in January 2018.
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23-03-2017, 17:39
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On Radio 4 this morning, the NSPCC said that a report of child sex abuse was reported every ten minutes!!!
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23-03-2017, 20:07
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Re: Football sex abuse
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On Radio 4 this morning, the NSPCC said that a report of child sex abuse was reported every ten minutes!!!
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Abused by football coaches/employees?
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25-03-2017, 15:19
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No, overall.
When you think about it, football is a paedophiles paradise. Lots of young lads running about in shorts with a 'i'll do anything for my/to get on the team mentality', culminating in a legitimate situation where they fully undress.
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06-07-2017, 20:45
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This problem doesn't look to be abating.
Panorama has uncovered the sexual abuse of young cadets:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08xgvqn
It was claimed that this would eclipse the scandals by Jimmy Savile and the Catholic church.
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16-03-2019, 14:49
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Re: Football sex abuse
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Well, let's hope it doesn't put them out of business. I wonder how many claims put forward will be false once a compensation scheme has been set up?
I think the problem with claims of this nature is that it's one person's word against another, with no witnesses to these incidents. A very difficult area indeed. 'Beyond reasonable doubt' are words that come to mind, so maybe payouts should be made only after a court verdict rather than to shut people up.
We still have this annoying habit of jumping to conclusions before hearing the evidence in these cases, and the 'Nick' case shows that the police are just as guilty of this as the general public. When will they learn? Unfortunately, people who bring forward allegations can lie. An easy to access compensation scheme introduces a financial incentive to do so.
A 'victim first' policy is all very well, but what about those who falsely claim they have been abused? The accused then has their reputation irreparably damaged, not to mention the embarrassment and all the social implications of that.
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16-03-2019, 17:03
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Re: Football sex abuse
There is a difference between a criminal and a civil case.
The criminal courts generally place the burden of proof on the prosecution, and the standard of proof is beyond reasonable doubt - the prosecution must prove the case they allege beyond reasonable doubt in order to obtain a conviction.
The civil courts generally place the burden of proof on the claimant so the standard of proof is the balance of probabilities - the claimant must prove the case they allege
is more likely than not in order to obtain judgment in their favour.
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23-05-2019, 18:37
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Re: Football sex abuse
Former Southampton and Peterborough coach Bob Higgins was today convicted of 45 counts of indecent assault against 23 boys.
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23-03-2021, 04:10
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A television series covering this subject started yesterday evening. The first part can be viewed here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000ths2
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