How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
12-12-2014, 17:43
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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It comes down to degree: when you have people coming uninvited into your personal space then that is over the line, for example, knocking on your door to promote their specific faith.
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You are currently inviting them (and anyone else) to come to your door.
If you place a sign on your gate, door etc removing the implied right to access then you can have them prosecuted. That should be enough for you I imagine.
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12-12-2014, 18:17
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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You are currently inviting them (and anyone else) to come to your door.
If you place a sign on your gate, door etc removing the implied right to access then you can have them prosecuted. That should be enough for you I imagine.
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so now there's a right to god bother people in their own home
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12-12-2014, 18:37
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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so now there's a right to god bother people in their own home
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Unless you put a sign on your property removing the implied right to access, people can come to your door. This why salespeople, canvassers, leaflet-droppers etc are allowed to do so, as well as evangelicals.
Putting up such a signs then leaves them liable to prosecution if they ignore it.
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12-12-2014, 18:49
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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Unless you put a sign on your property removing the implied right to access, people can come to your door. This why salespeople, canvassers, leaflet-droppers etc are allowed to do so, as well as evangelicals.
Putting up such a signs then leaves them liable to prosecution if they ignore it.
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GOD BOTHERERS WILL BE SHOT -is that the sort of thing you mean 
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12-12-2014, 19:49
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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You are currently inviting them (and anyone else) to come to your door.
If you place a sign on your gate, door etc removing the implied right to access then you can have them prosecuted. That should be enough for you I imagine.
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The issue is not whether they can, it is whether they should. I think that most people would not want them to knock on their door. In the same way, most people do not want (number withheld) telephone cold callers to ring them.
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12-12-2014, 20:08
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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GOD BOTHERERS WILL BE SHOT -is that the sort of thing you mean |
You're not allowed to shoot them.
the copper told me.
A thing I've always wondered is.
are these "God botherers" aware that they could be knocking on. and bothering a fellow "God botherer"?
Why do they feel that everyone besides themselves have never heard of Jesus? and assume that you haven't let him into your heart already?
Why do they come out at Xmas time?
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12-12-2014, 20:13
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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GOD BOTHERERS WILL BE SHOT -is that the sort of thing you mean |
Try it and see.
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Originally Posted by ianch99
The issue is not whether they can, it is whether they should. I think that most people would not want them to knock on their door.
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Do you have any statistics for that or does it just fit in with your view?
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You're not allowed to shoot them.
the copper told me.
A thing I've always wondered is.
are these "God botherers" aware that they could be knocking on. and bothering a fellow "God botherer"?
Why do they feel that everyone besides themselves have never heard of Jesus? and assume that you haven't let him into your heart already?
Why do they come out at Xmas time?
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There you go, things to ask them the next time they come 'bothering' you.
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12-12-2014, 20:17
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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There you go, things to ask them the next time they come 'bothering' you.
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They work me out straight away. I never get anything out of them.
Not being funny. but when you ask if he's got a mobile or an email address I can get him on. they tell me in their own special way. that it's all done by telepathy.
the man needs to move with the times and get internet access or an iphone.
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12-12-2014, 20:41
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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Do you have any statistics for that or does it just fit in with your view?
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An opinion: the majority of people are against cold calling.
If you like strangers knocking on your door or ringing your phone and trying to sell you something that:
a) you have not asked for
b) do not want
then good for you but I believe that most people do not.
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12-12-2014, 20:43
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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Originally Posted by Gary L
You're not allowed to shoot them.
the copper told me.
A thing I've always wondered is.
are these "God botherers" aware that they could be knocking on. and bothering a fellow "God botherer"?
Why do they feel that everyone besides themselves have never heard of Jesus? and assume that you haven't let him into your heart already?
Why do they come out at Xmas time?
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but if their on my property and i feel under threat[ globally]as an atheist ,i can use proportional force to defend myself .
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12-12-2014, 20:45
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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but if their on my property and i feel under threat[ globally]as an atheist ,i can use proportional force to defend myself .
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If shooting them is proportional, I wouldn't want to see you when you are angry 
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12-12-2014, 20:46
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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but if their on my property and i feel under threat[ globally]as an atheist ,i can use proportional force to defend myself .
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The force has to be proportional to that threatened against you. If Christians or JWs come to your door, you're going to have to restrict yourself to trying to smile them to death. Admittedly it seems the law would allow you to deploy a suicide vest if you came face to face with an Islamonutcase Jihadi.
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12-12-2014, 20:57
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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Originally Posted by ianch99
An opinion: the majority of people are against cold calling.
If you like strangers knocking on your door or ringing your phone and trying to sell you something that:
a) you have not asked for
b) do not want
then good for you but I believe that most people do not.
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In other words it just fits in with your view, fair enough.
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12-12-2014, 21:00
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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The force has to be proportional to that threatened against you. If Christians or JWs come to your door, you're going to have to restrict yourself to trying to smile them to death. Admittedly it seems the law would allow you to deploy a suicide vest if you came face to face with an Islamonutcase Jihadi.
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please tell me they don't do house calls
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12-12-2014, 21:01
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
I've posted on here many times that we have JW that call round regularly. Very nice people, they pass over the Watch Tower and Awake and we have a general chit chat. They leave happy, I don't mind, and I have jolly good chuckle reading the literature they gave me.
There's no need for confrontation or to be rude.
As was mentioned, if I didn't want them to bother me I could put a big sign ion the door, or indeed ask them at there next visit not to bother.
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