Child abuse 'may well have been' covered up - Norman Tebbit - Page 3

Mr Angry · 10-07-2014, 00:41

More cracks appearing?

"Baroness Butler-Sloss criticised over previous 'flawed' paedophile report.

The retired judge appointed to lead the Government's major review of child sex abuse allegations admitted 'inaccuracies' in similar report two years ago."

heero_yuy · 10-07-2014, 08:50

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OK! Who would you suggest?Bearing in mind we need someone who is at least an expert on child abuse and all it's issues and isn't connected to Westminster..

One name comes to mind: Esther Rantzen or maybe someone from the NSPCC.

Mr Angry · 10-07-2014, 08:56

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One name comes to mind: Esther Rantzen or maybe someone from the NSPCC.

Yes, Esther Rantzen. She'd be great*.

* As useful as a chocolate fire guard.

**Maggy** · 10-07-2014, 09:12

We do rather need someone with a knowledge of the law as well.

greeninferno · 10-07-2014, 15:42

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One name comes to mind: Esther Rantzen or maybe someone from the NSPCC.

A woman who knew saville was a paedophile and did and said nothing?

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More cracks appearing?

"Baroness Butler-Sloss criticised over previous 'flawed' paedophile report.

The retired judge appointed to lead the Government's major review of child sex abuse allegations admitted 'inaccuracies' in similar report two years ago."

she's eighty years old as well

Mr Angry · 12-07-2014, 13:32

Oh dear.

"The retired high court judge is reported to have told a victim of alleged abuse that she did not want to include some of his allegations in a review of how the Church of England dealt with two paedophile priests because she "cared about the Church" and "the press would love a bishop"."

Worrying if true.

Russ · 12-07-2014, 13:47

Whilst I have no evidence at all to back this up, I'd be very surprised if it turned out to be untrue. It seems like there has been a lot of "think of the greater good" and "what would it do to the overall reputation" attitudes with these and other child abuse cases. As if sweeping it under the carpet is the best answer due to what damage it would do to the CoE, Parliament, Catholic Church, BBC or any other large organisations that have had such allegations made against it.

greeninferno · 12-07-2014, 14:21

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Whilst I have no evidence at all to back this up, I'd be very surprised if it turned out to be untrue. It seems like there has been a lot of "think of the greater good" and "what would it do to the overall reputation" attitudes with these and other child abuse cases. As if sweeping it under the carpet is the best answer due to what damage it would do to the CoE, Parliament, Catholic Church, BBC or any other large organisations that have had such allegations made against it.

Joan Burnie was on Question time the other night and said she was married to a an MP in the 70's and reckoned some of those uncovered were then "blackmailed" into doing stuff that was needed , presumably by their respective parties.

So not only does it seem you had perverts molesting children you had others directly profiting in one way or another from keeping it quiet.

TheDaddy · 12-07-2014, 20:34

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True. Wish I had never posted now. Could all my posts in this thread be deleted please.

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How do I make the word 'no' sound any more emphatic?

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A good choice because of The Cleveland Inquiry.

And a poor choice imo because she is at the heart of the establishment Lord Tebbit was talking about being protected plus she has been retired quite a while now to

**Maggy** · 12-07-2014, 20:35

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And a poor choice imo because she is at the heart of the establishment Lord Tebbit was talking about being protected plus she has been retired quite a while now to

So who would you suggest?Everyone who keeps saying she is unsuitable have so far failed to offer any credible alternative.

TheDaddy · 12-07-2014, 20:43

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So who would you suggest?Everyone who keeps saying she is unsuitable have so far failed to offer any credible alternative.

Someone else who is on the panel can lead, it's not up to us to offer any credible alternative, she clearly isn't suitable, end of and the confidence the publc have in their findings may well end up being questioned by her remaining in post.

**Maggy** · 12-07-2014, 20:57

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Someone else who is on the panel can lead, it's not up to us to offer any credible alternative, she clearly isn't suitable, end of and the confidence the publc have in their findings may well end up being questioned by her remaining in post.

So who else is on the panel?Can you be sure that they are appropriate for the job?

TheDaddy · 12-07-2014, 21:28

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So who else is on the panel?Can you be sure that they are appropriate for the job?

No I can't be sure, well not as sure as I am that this woman is inappropriate for the job, how about a serving judge leading it rather than a retired one and if who ever is picked to lead it proves to be just as inappropriate, guess what, we can get rid of them to until we find some one who is up to it. Not really sure why you're sticking up for this woman or demanding the names of replacements for her from people who aren't involved in the selection process, seems a rather pointless, speculative exercise to me.

**Maggy** · 12-07-2014, 23:21

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No I can't be sure, well not as sure as I am that this woman is inappropriate for the job, how about a serving judge leading it rather than a retired one and if who ever is picked to lead it proves to be just as inappropriate, guess what, we can get rid of them to until we find some one who is up to it. Not really sure why you're sticking up for this woman or demanding the names of replacements for her from people who aren't involved in the selection process, seems a rather pointless, speculative exercise to me.

I'm wondering if ANYONE will be considered untainted by Whitehall.

TheDaddy · 12-07-2014, 23:32

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I'm wondering if ANYONE will be considered untainted by Whitehall.

Considering who appoints them there will always be a degree of taintedness, some like the baroness are more tainted than others though imo.