14-07-2010, 11:33
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Re: Second hand V+ boxes
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I think this is misconception of WEEE. There is no actual responsibility to collect equipment under WEEE if it's not being replaced by something else if the company is part of the Takeback scheme i.e. local recycling centres
So if you buy a Cooker from Currys, and then later on you don't want it anymore you wouldn't be able to force Currys to collect it as they would tell you to take it to the recycling centre
The only time there is usually a requirement to collect old items is where a company is replacing them. So if you buy a new cooker Currys will normall take the old one away
So Virgin will collect the equipment they can reuse easily.
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I confess I don't know all the ins and outs of the WEEE directive, but every one of your examples refers to buying equipment and is the consumers property, and is, therefore, their responsibility to dispose of correctly, including returning to the manufacturer where possible.
In the VM case ALL equipment remains VM's property and the disposal remains, in my understanding, VM's reponsibility.
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14-07-2010, 12:07
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Re: Second hand V+ boxes
The WEEE regulations talk about "distribution" - whether equipment is sold, rented or given away makes no difference.
VM recycle much more than they are obliged to under WEEE.
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14-07-2010, 12:14
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Re: Second hand V+ boxes
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The directive imposes the responsibility for the disposal of waste electrical and electronic equipment on the manufacturers of such equipment. Those companies should establish an infrastructure for collecting WEEE, in such a way that "Users of electrical and electronic equipment from private households should have the possibility of returning WEEE at least free of charge".
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... and by manufacturers it also includes rebranders.... is this the reason why you say routers are exempt, because VM haven't rebranded them?
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14-07-2010, 13:03
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Re: Second hand V+ boxes
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... and by manufacturers it also includes rebranders.... is this the reason why you say routers are exempt, because VM haven't rebranded them?
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This argument has been here before and Virginmedia do all that is required of them under the regulations, plus they wil be shortly ensuring that many more boxes are retrieved from customers premises either via an engineer visit or by Customer Services sending out returns packaging.
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14-07-2010, 13:19
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Re: Second hand V+ boxes
I didn't realise it was an argument, I was only wondering why you made an exception of routers.
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14-07-2010, 13:20
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Re: Second hand V+ boxes
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I didn't realise it was an argument, I was only wondering why you made an exception of routers.
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No I said that this argument has been here before.
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14-07-2010, 13:38
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Re: Second hand V+ boxes
Anyway as the combined router/modems are coming it will soon be a discussion that no longer needs to happen
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14-07-2010, 14:52
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Re: Second hand V+ boxes
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Anyway as the combined router/modems are coming it will soon be a discussion that no longer needs to happen 
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indeed... they look cool too
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