School gym forced to shut

Originally Posted by nomadking

1) It is an independent school, not a private school.
2) It is still Tax payer funded.
3) The meetings were after school hours, so were a function of a public building NOT of a school.

Interesting piece of fiction you're writing there. However, back in the real world:

1. In common usage, independent school and private school means the same thing.
2. It is funded by endowment from the Whitgift Foundation, one of three schools supported by that organisation.
3. The buildings have been an archbishop's residence, the home of an Anglican women's religious order, and are now owned by the school.

I can give you a URL for each piece of this information but I thought it would be more entertaining to ask you your evidence first.

Originally Posted by Chris

I'm sorry ... either you haven't bothered to read the article in question, or you have read it and totally failed to take any of it in.

The school is not a religious school. It is simply a private school for girls. The headteacher is a she, not a he. Her name is Judy Harris. She has - it is reported - told the gym club that there are an increased number of Muslim children at school this year, and it is their families that are complaining. If she is receiving complaints, then she must know how many complaints she is receiving. Even if there were no complaints about anything, you would expect her to have some idea of the religious leanings of the families sending children to the school, especially non-Christian families who are liable to want to withdraw their children from any Christian assemblies that may be planned.

yes chris i did correct myself as to the type of school it is
and yes i did call her a he (sorry)but the point i am making is that no particular group of people should be able to use religious or cultural differences to dictate to others the way things should be
Has it not occured to anyone that if these "muslim" parents were that bothered about there girls comming into contact with boys then they could quite simply keep the girls in the classroom untill the boys were in the gym or not enrolled their children in the first place as it seems to be the recent influx of asians (muslims for chris's benefit)that are causing the problem and the gym club was there first

Originally Posted by martyh

yes chris i did correct myself as to the type of school it is
and yes i did call her a he (sorry)but the point i am making is that no particular group of people should be able to use religious or cultural differences to dictate to others the way things should be
Has it not occured to anyone that if these "muslim" parents were that bothered about there girls comming into contact with boys then they could quite simply keep the girls in the classroom untill the boys were in the gym or not enrolled their children in the first place as it seems to be the recent influx of asians (muslims for chris's benefit)that are causing the problem and the gym club was there first

The school has existed in its current form since 1975. The gym club has been there since the beginning of 2008. If we're going to play the 'I was here first' game, then I think the principle of a campus for girls only has been established for quite a lot longer.

Has it not occurred to you that the Muslim parents are that bothered about their daughters coming into contact with boys, and because they are that bothered, they have gone to the fuss and expense of enrolling them in an all girls school ?

Why, exactly, should they then have to take still further measures to secure their wishes for their daughters' education and upbringing? Haven't they done enough?

And what's this barmy idea about keeping them shut in the classroom? You're completely divorced from reality matey. It sounds to me like you're so fixated on pushing your Asian-hating agenda that you're not even bothering to think logically about what you're saying.

[moaningmags]

If I paid all that money to send my daughters to an all girls school and it came out they were in gym classes with boys, I'd be pretty peed off.

[punky]

Originally Posted by moaningmags

If I paid all that money to send my daughters to an all girls school and it came out they were in gym classes with boys, I'd be pretty peed off.

These aren't classes. They gym starts after the school has finished.

Originally Posted by punky

These aren't classes. They gym starts after the school has finished.

From the Daily Diana article in the OP -
"Headteacher Mrs Harris released a statement but refused to give any further details about parents' objections.

She said: "We were unable to accommodate the early starting time of the club as the school was still functioning.

We had hoped that the club could be held at a later time but this was thought unworkable by the organisers." "

Originally Posted by Chris

And what's this barmy idea about keeping them shut in the classroom? You're completely divorced from reality matey. It sounds to me like you're so fixated on pushing your Asian-hating agenda that you're not even bothering to think logically about what you're saying.

whats the difference ...being kept in a classroom for a few extra minuits or being locked in there house, denied any interaction in the outside world apart from school.Do you even realise what kind of life these muslim girls have,if i treated a daughter of mine in the same fashion then i feel certain that social services would be involved .
i'm sorry chris but but if you condone there actions then it is you and people like you that contribute to the mess this counties in now
And for your information i have not got an "Asian hating agenda"i would feel the same if the religion in discussion was catholic,c of e,bhudist,hindu,or freakin' rasterfarian
if anything it's a religion hating agenda but thats a different topic

When I first attended an all boys school the (fee paying) boarders were encouraged/required to attend the evening swimming sessions as nature intended, the head teacher included....

- we never had any girls sharing those sessions

I think moaningmags has summed it up very nicely

Originally Posted by moaningmags

If I paid all that money to send my daughters to an all girls school and it came out they were in gym classes with boys, I'd be pretty peed off.

i don't think they are in classes with the boys as this club is a after school club nothing to do with the school apart from the fact that the school let the club use the gym

Originally Posted by martyh

i don't think they are in classes with the boys as this club is a after school club nothing to do with the school apart from the fact that the school let the club use the gym

I think the fact is that their are boys around whilst the girls are still at school.

[punky]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

From the Daily Diana article in the OP -
"Headteacher Mrs Harris released a statement but refused to give any further details about parents' objections.

She said: "We were unable to accommodate the early starting time of the club as the school was still functioning.

We had hoped that the club could be held at a later time but this was thought unworkable by the organisers." "

The term "functioning" is open to debate. The gym session starts at 5pm which is after classes have ended. The school isn't going co-ed. These parents (term used lightly) are objecting to their daughters passing in the proximity of boys as classes end and the gym session begins.

I went to all-boys prep school (which has now gone co-ed) and then a mixed secondary school where classes were segregated. I know the value of it. However my parents encouraged me to interact with all other children outside of school. If these parents object to girls being in the proximity of boys then what kind of social life outside of school will these girls lead? The fact is that these 'parents' want to warp the social interaction into this hideously inbred way.

[papa smurf]

this gym club was set up for the good of the community .
community is always being quoted by muslims [community this community that /our community leaders etc ] my take on this is, if its not benefiting the muslim community then it has to go ,and the rest of the community no matter what race colour or creed arent important ,as long as the muslims get there way.
the only losers here are children ,there's no boys in the class rooms etc, it just an after hours activity that has been ruined by the selfish few who will not inter-grate into our multi cultural society ,[the same society there always bleating about] hypocrites .

And we are only hearing from one viewpoint - that of the guy who can't get what he wanted, and his intrepretation of what the headmistress said.

[papa smurf]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...omplaints.html

Originally Posted by papa smurf

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...omplaints.html

which just repeats the same info in the OP.