Bittorrent On VM - Page 3

Impz2002 · 12-09-2008, 14:15

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

CMTS = Cable Modem Termination System = uBR just to mention

Hmm i always thought the CMTS was the head end ? oh well i stand corrected !

Impz

Ignitionnet · 12-09-2008, 14:24

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Originally Posted by Impz2002

Hmm i always thought the CMTS was the head end ? oh well i stand corrected !

Impz

Well it's usually at the head-end / hubsite, but yeah that's what it stands for, Cable Modem Termination System, that bit of tin the cable modems talk to

uBR is Cisco's CMTS, Universal Broadband Router, Motorola make the BSR, Broadband Services Router, etc, etc.

Andrewcrawford23 · 12-09-2008, 14:24

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Andrew, it's not an issue with CPU, memory or bandwidth I have checked them all on the XP machine and it was fine. This machine has 2GB of RAM and a dual core CPU, easily capable of running uTorrent.

Checking the half-open connections I've proven that there were no issues with the XP TCP/IP stack with the trace I took and likewise proved out my router.

I'll do some more detailed analysis later tonight I think to a test node that I control taking traces from both sides simultaneously.

I know it not a issue...... but if support can not blame it on that then you have mroe reason to get them to look into......

I am well aware that virgin are probabaly trialign something and by such accoutn ruling out certains thing by taking them out of the picture give you more to fight back with suppor twith

EDIT: Broadbanding - Do you want me to speak in techincal speak and with tehcincal knownledge so you will not quote me and try to correct me so you know wha ti am implying? because it is quite annoying you always trying to inform me of thing i know about jsut because i am speaking in lower language that people with no knowledge can udnerstand

Ignitionnet · 12-09-2008, 14:36

I was the original poster so was answering your post to me?

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Anyway back to the original poster

That was me

EDIT: I'm not going to waste my time going to 1st line support with this, would be painful. I'd rather continue checking it out until I have something definitive. The trace I took eliminates any issues on my side anyway, network card listening in verbose mode, didn't see any responses until very very late and 2 of 3 lost, then nothing for rest of flow until it timed out.

Andrewcrawford23 · 12-09-2008, 14:46

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

I was the original poster so was answering your post to me?

That was me

EDIT: I'm not going to waste my time going to 1st line support with this, would be painful. I'd rather continue checking it out until I have something definitive. The trace I took eliminates any issues on my side anyway, network card listening in verbose mode, didn't see any responses until very very late and 2 of 3 lost, then nothing for rest of flow until it timed out.

Ok well i am really daft then because i am sure i read the poster as something starting with i, apogolise then

Impz2002 · 12-09-2008, 16:09

Im starting to think this is VM's new way of crippling service. It seems strange that it only affects torrents !

Very sneaky !

Impz

Andrewcrawford23 · 12-09-2008, 16:22

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Originally Posted by Impz2002

Im starting to think this is VM's new way of crippling service. It seems strange that it only affects torrents !

Very sneaky !

Impz

No no, virgin dnt want to cripple yoru service

they want you to pay Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£40 a month for it then never use it

Jonathan90 · 12-09-2008, 16:38

no offence but amybe your ain't got it configured right or something mines fine when configured correctly oh and another thing huge swamped torrents can cause crap browsing try the openoffice torrent

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or even send me your settings from utorrent application data folder and i'll try a torrent with them

|Kippa| · 12-09-2008, 16:55

Downloading torrents fine here at 2.4MB/sec (20mbit connection). Maybe they are only doing it in a trial area, if they are throttling torrent connections. It might be a good idea for all those who think they are being throttled on bittorent to say what general area they are from to see if it is happening in the same place. I am in Blackpool and can download torrents no problem here, so the Blackpool/Preston area should be clear.

Ignitionnet · 12-09-2008, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Jonathan90

no offence but amybe your ain't got it configured right or something mines fine when configured correctly oh and another thing huge swamped torrents can cause crap browsing try the openoffice torrent

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or even send me your settings from utorrent application data folder and i'll try a torrent with them

Read the trace from the first post again. The packets left my PC fine, nothing to do with uTorrent at all some network issue between my network card and the CF server that caused a request to be badly delayed and others to drop.

Thanks for the offer of assistance.

Andrewcrawford23 · 12-09-2008, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Read the trace from the first post again. The packets left my PC fine, nothing to do with uTorrent at all some network issue between my network card and the CF server that caused a request to be badly delayed and others to drop.

Thanks for the offer of assistance.

Well i decided to look at your traces and it appears to be dropping just leaving the ubr, i say appears i cant be sure as the trace isnt one i am 100% familier with

Ignitionnet · 12-09-2008, 17:20

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

Well i decided to look at your traces and it appears to be dropping just leaving the ubr, i say appears i cant be sure as the trace isnt one i am 100% familier with

It's the summary from Wireshark / Ethereal and is the same format as a TCPdump.

You can't see at what point it's dropping from the trace as I've no visibility of anything past my network card. I can prove that my router had a NAT session set up, I can prove that there was no TCPIP.sys half open connections limit but I can't say for sure anything beyond that.

Jonathan90 · 12-09-2008, 17:27

honestly you gotta get it in your head? if utorrent is on it goes slow
if not it doesn't so its obviously utorrent causing the problem wrong settings,network card can't handle the connections i don't know but isn't it obvious it utorrent or whatever client your using? try using less global connection put a lower number its not virginmedia for once imo some things wrong your end. or maybe as someone said above maybe your in a trial area i give up lol try a different client try halite (binarynotions.com)

good luck

Ignitionnet · 12-09-2008, 17:32

If you can't read the trace I've provided there's not much more I can say. The issue is proven off my PC, network card and router by the network trace extract. It shows the TCP session setup run properly (proving out router) followed by the request leaving network card then a response eventually coming back. None of my kit can cause this, it can only cause connections to be dropped, not delayed.

Andrewcrawford23 · 12-09-2008, 17:40

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

It's the summary from Wireshark / Ethereal and is the same format as a TCPdump.

You can't see at what point it's dropping from the trace as I've no visibility of anything past my network card. I can prove that my router had a NAT session set up, I can prove that there was no TCPIP.sys half open connections limit but I can't say for sure anything beyond that.

As i said appears, as i am not familier witht eh trace type