Floods are a judgement on society, say bishops - Page 3

Ramrod · 02-07-2007, 10:43

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Originally Posted by Chris T

Considering you lot think it's all fairytales, you don't half let it wind you up!

Amused bemusement really......till the people who believe in fairy tales hand down judgement on the rest of based on those fairy tales......thats when I get angry.

**Chris** · 02-07-2007, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Amused bemusement really......till the people who believe in fairy tales hand down judgement on the rest of based on those fairy tales......thats when I get angry.

Now I'm bemused ... what sort of judgement can a Bishop possibly exercise over those who don't believe? Surely if you think it's nonsense, what a Bishop says is completely irrelevant to you.

**Hugh** · 02-07-2007, 10:51

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Originally Posted by Chris T

Now I'm bemused ... what sort of judgement can a Bishop possibly exercise over those who don't believe? Surely if you think it's nonsense, what a Bishop says is completely irrelevant to you.

But if the people who do believe take his word as gospel (excuse the pun), and then start treating "others" (as defined by the Bish) as evil/bad, then it does affect those who don't believe (and btw, I do).

Ramrod · 02-07-2007, 10:54

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Originally Posted by Chris T

Now I'm bemused ... what sort of judgement can a Bishop possibly exercise over those who don't believe? Surely if you think it's nonsense, what a Bishop says is completely irrelevant to you.

It's the fact that he even says it that bothers me. Thats the kind of thinking that gets us bombed by religious nuts of other persuasions.

**Chris** · 02-07-2007, 10:56

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

But if the people who do believe take his word as gospel (excuse the pun), and then start treating "others" (as defined by the Bish) as evil/bad, then it does affect those who don't believe (and btw, I do).

But for people to do that, they would have to accept what the Bishop says about judgment on society, whilst ignoring what the Bishop says about forgiveness and new life in Jesus, loving your enemies, and so on.

The entirety of Christian theology is absolutely colossal. It's not reasonable to take one single statement by one of its teachers made on one particular day and then assume that people would, or should, act solely on that.

Nugget · 02-07-2007, 10:57

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

hmmm so god works for ne lincs council...that explains the high council tax

M'eh, you're just living in the wrong bit

Actually, this must mean that everyone on Nug Street are totally righteous, seeing as the river at one end didn't breach, and the clogged drains actually managed to deal with the water this time.

Anyone else want to bask in my glory

**Chris** · 02-07-2007, 10:58

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

It's the fact that he even says it that bothers me. Thats the kind of thinking that gets us bombed by religious nuts of other persuasions.

I can't speak for other religious persuasions. I can only speak for the Christian one, and whilst I know you're not a believer, I think you are sufficiently well-acquainted with the life and teachings of Jesus to know that he never, at any stage, advocated the use of force by his disciples to make a point. Quite the contrary, in fact.

danielf · 02-07-2007, 11:03

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Originally Posted by Chris T

Now I'm bemused ... what sort of judgement can a Bishop possibly exercise over those who don't believe? Surely if you think it's nonsense, what a Bishop says is completely irrelevant to you.

This Bishop apparently thinks that either he is qualified to comment on God's intentions and thoughts when it comes to happenings in daily life (which I would imagine religious people would find extremely arrogant; I'd be interested to hear what you think of this), or thinks he can use his religion to comment on how other people lead their life, which I find extremely arrogant and patronising.

Mr Angry · 02-07-2007, 11:04

Luke 19:27

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay before me.

Russ · 02-07-2007, 11:17

Well, it HAS only been about 2 weeks since the last religion-bashing thread

Nugget · 02-07-2007, 11:18

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Luke 19:27

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay before me.

Shouldn't that be '...I should rain over them...'

Mr Angry · 02-07-2007, 11:20

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Originally Posted by Nugget

Shouldn't that be '...I should rain over them...'

Nugget, I think you may have a point there!!

danielf · 02-07-2007, 11:21

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Well, it HAS only been about 2 weeks since the last religion-bashing thread

Which begs the question of who started this. I think there is a case to be made for saying the bishop did.

Nugget · 02-07-2007, 11:25

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Originally Posted by danielf

Which begs the question of who started this. I think there is a case to be made for saying the bishop did.

Now now - we'll have no bishop bashing on this forum

**Hugh** · 02-07-2007, 11:29

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Well, it HAS only been about 2 weeks since the last religion-bashing thread

Russ, I am not trying to bash religion (as I am a practitioner), just one person's reported comments, using his position within a religion to give those comments added weight.