By-pass the current DNS outages.
14-10-2003, 20:11
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
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Originally Posted by albone
phew thought it was something I had done! got problems with msn and windows messenger but I suppose thats all linked yeh?
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Yep.
(Hi Albone  )
DNS = Domain Name Service which basiclyturns www.whatever.com into an IP address.
As an example, www.nthellworld.co.uk resolves to 216.40.241.59
Trouble is (for me) NTHW.co.uk is the only site I can go to as it's the only site I know the IP addy for.... I am aware that I can use a proxy for Internet Explorer but I play on-line games and need DNS resolution.
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14-10-2003, 21:37
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
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Originally Posted by Stuart W
Yep.
(Hi Albone  )
DNS = Domain Name Service which basiclyturns www.whatever.com into an IP address.
As an example, www.nthellworld.co.uk resolves to 216.40.241.59
Trouble is (for me) NTHW.co.uk is the only site I can go to as it's the only site I know the IP addy for.... I am aware that I can use a proxy for Internet Explorer but I play on-line games and need DNS resolution.
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I thank christ that i run my own dns servers. seems loads of peeps are having this grief  if ya stuck pop this ip in ya primary dns settings 80.3.116.236 thats should getting running again. its for my dns server open the firewall to it so if peeps wanna use it by all means do. of course youll need to remove once the work is done
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14-10-2003, 22:16
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
Well, looks like they managed to get it put right without too much delay this time. Many thanks to Fuzznuts for the kind offer. BTW, do the root DNS machines allow access by anyone, or do you have to be someone important?
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14-10-2003, 22:17
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
anyone can access them has to be that way for dns to work if they didnt youd just be pushing the load further up the tree.
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15-10-2003, 15:26
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
I don't know about anybody else, but I am getting sick to death of NTL's second rate service for a premium price. every time they screw up it makes adsl look better and better.
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30-10-2003, 02:25
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
When was the last time ppl had trouble?
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10-11-2003, 20:05
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
Hiya folks...
This isn't isolated to NTL; I've seen it on Blueyonder and on BT. Maybe not as often (they weren't my connections...), but it peaked through the recent virus outbreak and has settled since.
Food for thought maybe... hmm??
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20-11-2003, 20:16
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
Man I am so sick of this, it's still going on and yet when I change my DNS to some other ISP, all websites previously causing a problem magically reappear.
Some other DNS server's which people can manually specify are:
Easynet: (I am using these at the moment and they perform very well compared to ntl's)
195.40.1.250
195.40.0.250
Zen:
212.23.8.1
212.23.8.6
Pipex:
NS0-P.DNS.PIPEX.NET
NS1-P.DNS.PIPEX.NET
BT:
DNS1.BTINTERNET.COM
DNS2.BTINTERNET.COM
DNS4.BTINTERNET.COM
DNS3.BTINTERNET.COM
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20-11-2003, 21:24
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
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Originally Posted by Keyser
Man I am so sick of this, it's still going on and yet when I change my DNS to some other ISP, all websites previously causing a problem magically reappear.
Some other DNS server's which people can manually specify are:
Easynet: (I am using these at the moment and they perform very well compared to ntl's)
195.40.1.250
195.40.0.250
Zen:
212.23.8.1
212.23.8.6
Pipex:
NS0-P.DNS.PIPEX.NET
NS1-P.DNS.PIPEX.NET
BT:
DNS1.BTINTERNET.COM
DNS2.BTINTERNET.COM
DNS4.BTINTERNET.COM
DNS3.BTINTERNET.COM
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You cannot specify a domain name in your DNS settings, it must be an IP address.
I'm also somewhat puzzled by the people who say specifying a proxy server within their IE is curing their problem, this basically rules out a complete DNS failure as the cause - If DNS was truely screwed then IE would not be able to resolve the address of the proxy you had specified so you still would not be able to browse the net.
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28-11-2003, 10:12
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
Hi All
You need to change the proxy and the dns server at the same time. The ntl proxy servers will try to resolve names using there own dns server.
HTH
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28-11-2003, 10:30
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
Could still do with a couple of ROOT DNS server IP's......
I have my own DNS server, but would love to tie it to the root to solve all the stupid NTL nonsence.
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30-11-2003, 11:04
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
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Originally Posted by Stuart W
Could still do with a couple of ROOT DNS server IP's......
I have my own DNS server, but would love to tie it to the root to solve all the stupid NTL nonsence.
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The root servers won't do you any good unless your server is recursive. The root servers don't know the answers, they just refer you to a server that does. That server probably won't know either, so it too will refer you... and so on until you eventually get the answer.
See http://www.ntcanuck.com/ for a recursive server that runs on NT-based Windows. It imagine it is supplied with a "hint" file containing the root server names and IP addresses. But in case not:
E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 192.203.230.10
D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 128.8.10.90
A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 198.41.0.4
H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 128.63.2.53
C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 192.33.4.12
G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 192.112.36.4
F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 192.5.5.241
B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 128.9.0.107
J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 192.58.128.30
K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 193.0.14.129
L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 198.32.64.12
M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 202.12.27.33
I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 IN A 192.36.148.17
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30-11-2003, 12:17
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
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05-12-2003, 10:52
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
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Originally Posted by pem
I'm also somewhat puzzled by the people who say specifying a proxy server within their IE is curing their problem, this basically rules out a complete DNS failure as the cause - If DNS was truely screwed then IE would not be able to resolve the address of the proxy you had specified so you still would not be able to browse the net.
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Yeah, this is exactly what I was wondering too - I really can't figure out what going on really, but I've chnged my DNS and everything now works - I've not bothered with the proxies as in someways I don't think that's the problem, it's just the the proxy has an old copy of the page so it can get you that one, so it doesn't have to use the DNS
Although, the NTL proxies are probably resolved via a host table or something, to save them having to go to DNS
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09-12-2003, 07:13
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Re: By-pass the current DNS outages.
I usually just change my DNS Servers to BTopenworld when this happens.
Primary DNS Server: 194.73.73.94
Secondary DNS Server: 194.73.73.95
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