Royals - normal?

[Charlie_Bubble]

Originally Posted by Graham

And again I ask, what if you were the offspring of a rich business man?

??? I'm not. If I was I'd be happy, because doubtless I could pop downstairs now to my indoor heated pool and swim a few lengths. What I wouldn't do, is go down the local pub and tell people that despite my vast wealth and associated priviliges, I'm really just the same as them.

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

I'm not [...] What I wouldn't do, is go down the local pub and tell people that despite my vast wealth and associated priviliges, I'm really just the same as them.

But you're saying that from your point of view of *not* being the offspring of a rich person...!

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

??? I'm not. If I was I'd be happy, because doubtless I could pop downstairs now to my indoor heated pool and swim a few lengths. What I wouldn't do, is go down the local pub and tell people that despite my vast wealth and associated priviliges, I'm really just the same as them.

Enjoy your rep for that

Originally Posted by Graham

But you're saying that from your point of view of *not* being the offspring of a rich person...!

Hypothetical possibility and all that?

Incog decides to tiptoe awayfrom this entire thread.

Originally Posted by Russ D

Hypothetical possibility and all that?

Yes, but it's one thing to say "if I was that person I would do X", but since you're *not* that person and haven't lived their life and had their experiences (and not yours, of course!) you're only speculating which is the point I'm trying to make.

Addendum:

As I said right at the start:

Is [your life] "normal" in comparison to some "chav"? How can you say because you're not (presumably!) a "chav"!

[Russ]

And the point I'm trying to make is she has a lifestyle which the majority of people in the UK do not experience. OK I don't know what she does on a day-to-day basis but I know enough about her (armed guards, Queen as grandmother, cousin as future King etc) to say that this is NOT what I'd call 'normal'.

I (and I think most people) would define normal as get up, go to work, come home shattered, make dinner, slouch in front of the tv or indulge in hobbies, you know, the 'rat race', worry about debts etc. This might not be EVERYONE'S idea of a lifestyle but I'd bet it would be closer than what a member of the Royals goes through each day.

As for being a 'chav' - maybe I am, maybe I'm not. I don't waste my time being concerned about whether I fit a social stereotype or not. My judgements on people are based on what I see and what information they make available. And even then I could be wrong. But there are some aspects which are undeniable, such as what we know a royal to go through.

[Charlie_Bubble]

Originally Posted by Graham

But you're saying that from your point of view of *not* being the offspring of a rich person...!

But the whole point is this. I'm not a member of the royal family or the son of a millionaire businessman, so I don't make out that my life has been similar to anyone who is one of these things, it's just ridiculous. It would mean that I'm in some way ashamed of who I am and where I have come from. So why should someone who is in that position try and do the opposite. Maybe it's partly through some kind of guilt at their position that makes them try and convince people that they haven't had a priviliged upbringing, but anyone who looks at their upbringing can tell them it's not an everyday, 'normal' one, so why try and make out it is. Perhaps in comparison with other royal children it has been less pampered, but they have still had many, many more advantages and opportunities than the average person of the same age.

[Charlie_Bubble]

The final gauge on this is:

At this moment there is a thread on this forum and possibly others about Zara, who is a famous young royal and who has just been on TV saying she is a normal person.

At this moment there are absolutely no threads on any forums about Charlie_Bubble, who is not so young any more and certainly not royal and the only time I have ever been on TV has been at sporting events or once when I sang to Princess Margaret.

Out of the two above, who seems more normal....on second thoughts, don't answer that one!

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

The final gauge on this is:

At this moment there is a thread on this forum and possibly others about Zara, who is a famous young royal and who has just been on TV saying she is a normal person.

At this moment there are absolutely no threads on any forums about Charlie_Bubble, who is not so young any more and certainly not royal and the only time I have ever been on TV has been at sporting events or once when I sang to Princess Margaret.

Out of the two above, who seems more normal....on second thoughts, don't answer that one!

I guess it depends on what you define as 'normal' - my interpritation (as I believe is most peoples') is 'what is shared, known or experienced by the majority'. Not sure which dictionery it came from but it was online....

Anyway, going on your example above, and my definition, I'd say Zara's life resembles 'normal' the least.

[Charlie_Bubble]

Another way would be to say; Does a normal person get to do their own TV programme to talk about how they are like everybody else? The fact that she feels the need or someone has asked her to do a show in itself says she's not normal, or average.

Anyway, tired of this and her now!

Keaunu "the Chav" Smith pulls up in his modded Fiesta with the extra lights, spoilers and England flags attached, the bass bins in the back blasting out 120 decibels of Beastie Boys.

He flicks his fag out of the window, the sunlight glinting off his gold sovereign ring and starts to speak, then realises that nobody can hear him over the racket from his stereo.

Reluctantly he turns it off (or, at least, down) and gets out, his white trainers and baseball cap setting off his Hillfiger t-shirt and trousers and the heavy gold neck chain and ID bracelet (with his name on as a reminder) says...

"Urr, well, yeah, like I had an effing normal childhood didn't I? I bunked off the effing local comp like everyone else, learned to smoke at effing seven, nicked a bunch of effing stereos an' got some effing community service order from some muppet magistrate.

"Then I got on the dole and did some effing work cash in hand for a mate and spent it on effing Special Brew then I come home and watch effing Sky Sports all effing evening.

"An' what's this effing crap about not having an effing TV show? Haven't you ever effing watched effing Trisha?

"That's normal, innit?!"

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Originally Posted by kronas

in my view no royal has earned the right for special treatment.

OFF WITH HIS HEAD

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Graham

Keaunu "the Chav" Smith pulls up in his modded Fiesta with the extra lights, spoilers and England flags attached, the bass bins in the back blasting out 120 decibels of Beastie Boys.

He flicks his fag out of the window, the sunlight glinting off his gold sovereign ring and starts to speak, then realises that nobody can hear him over the racket from his stereo.

Reluctantly he turns it off (or, at least, down) and gets out, his white trainers and baseball cap setting off his Hillfiger t-shirt and trousers and the heavy gold neck chain and ID bracelet (with his name on as a reminder) says...

"Urr, well, yeah, like I had an effing normal childhood didn't I? I bunked off the effing local comp like everyone else, learned to smoke at effing seven, nicked a bunch of effing stereos an' got some effing community service order from some muppet magistrate.

"Then I got on the dole and did some effing work cash in hand for a mate and spent it on effing Special Brew then I come home and watch effing Sky Sports all effing evening.

"An' what's this effing crap about not having an effing TV show? Haven't you ever effing watched effing Trisha?

"That's normal, innit?!"

I'd say that is more 'normal' to people than Special Branch guards, Royal Titles in the family, invites to film premiers etc.

Originally Posted by Graham

"That's normal, innit?!"

No, why ?

Originally Posted by Pem

No, why ?