Rising cost of living

[Jaymoss]

I think a lot of the problem would be solved if they simply stopped tying electricity prices to the price of gas cuz then we could just boil a kettle. The rising prices of food and so on imo pales when compared to the rise in energy prices

Gas is still used to produce a sizable chunk of our electricity (37% in 2020).

[Jaymoss]

Octopus buy a very large amount of Green Electricity produced in this country. Why should the bill payer pay the same as gas produced electric ? simply answer is they should not so I repeat I wish they would stop tying Electric prices to Gas prices

Plus using your figures that is 63% of electric that costs should not be tied to gas prices

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I remember when i was a child, we only had one tap and it was cold, we had a coal stove and had to boil water on it to fill the tin bath that lived on a hook on the outside wall next to the outside toilet, there was a hierarchy of bath usage and i was last, I thought i would never see people living that way again.

That's nothing - I remember when I was a child, it was twice as cold inside as it was outside. We got warm by using the outside toilet. We had nothing to eat except last year's coal and the matches were too damp to use. Papa had it good in those days!

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

We got warm by using the outside toilet.

An innovative ecological solution to harness the steam off the previous occupants shit. I applaud it.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by jfman

An innovative ecological solution to harness the steam off the previous occupants shit. I applaud it.

It really is a shame we can not harness the hot air constantly blown across this website hahahaha

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by jfman

An innovative ecological solution to harness the steam off the previous occupants shit. I applaud it.

It was beneficial to get on the seat once someone had warmed it up for you.

[Mr K]

Picked several bags of blackberries this afternoon. Get brambling, it's a bumper year and they freeze well !

Originally Posted by Mr K

Picked several bags of blackberries this afternoon. Get brambling, it's a bumper year and they freeze well !

Preserving's probably better - won't be able to afford to run the freezer early next year...

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Welcome to the dystopian future of capitalism.

The alternative to capitalism as part of a mixed economy is infinitely worse.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The alternative to capitalism as part of a mixed economy is infinitely worse.

What's not mixed about billions in bailouts and subsidies to the private sector as it is

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Octopus buy a very large amount of Green Electricity produced in this country. Why should the bill payer pay the same as gas produced electric ? simply answer is they should not so I repeat I wish they would stop tying Electric prices to Gas prices

Plus using your figures that is 63% of electric that costs should not be tied to gas prices

But then everybody else would bid higher and higher for that limited amount of cheaper electricity, and prices would rise anyway. Who would decide, who gets that cheaper electricity? Also Wind and Solar has to be backed up by gas.
At this very point in times, renewables(includes Biomass) may look fairly good at 30%, but that can drop quite markedly. Think of at night, in winter, with wind producing 3% or less, Biomass at 7%, where is the rest expected to come from?

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by nomadking

But then everybody else would bid higher and higher for that limited amount of cheaper electricity, and prices would rise anyway. Who would decide, who gets that cheaper electricity? Also Wind and Solar has to be backed up by gas.
At this very point in times, renewables(includes Biomass) may look fairly good at 30%, but that can drop quite markedly. Think of at night, in winter, with wind producing 3% or less, Biomass at 7%, where is the rest expected to come from?

I do not care I just want cheaper bills.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

What's not mixed about billions in bailouts and subsidies to the private sector as it is

Clearly, you’ve conveniently forgotten about all the help given to people during the Covid restrictions and you are not taking account of all the measures the government have already taken to help the poor, let alone measures about to be taken to prevent huge increases to the fuel bill impacting on them.

You need to look at the world through both eyes, not just the dodgy left one.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Clearly, you’ve conveniently forgotten about all the help given to people during the Covid restrictions and you are not taking account of all the measures the government have already taken to help the poor, let alone measures about to be taken to prevent huge increases to the fuel bill impacting on them.

You need to look at the world through both eyes, not just the dodgy left one.

Now, now OB. No need for your pitiful insults. It's understandable that you have bitterness about the ideology you blindly support being exposed as a case of the Emperor's new clothes but there's no need to take it out on me. I didn't create this series of events although I've sounded the alarm bell for some time.

Those ideas are, somewhat ironically, about to expire like an old retired person under capitalism, weak in mind and body, discarded to the side as no longer useful and unable to contribute to 21st century reality.