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			03-04-2021, 13:31
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  papa smurf
					 
				 
				With Scotland's share of the covid bill and the monies owed to the EU under the withdrawal agreement monies going to be tight. 
			
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 Maybe they can use the North Sea oil as payment that we've pilfered over the years.  
Anyway Scotland voted to Remain, England voted to Leave, so England should pay the EU bill.  
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			03-04-2021, 13:42
			
			
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				Maybe they can use the North Sea oil as payment that we've pilfered over the years.  
Anyway Scotland voted to Remain, England voted to Leave, so England should pay the EU bill.  
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 No one wants the oil the world is changing, we voted as a single entity, you should negotiate for them, ill get the pop corn in.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-04-2021, 13:59
			
			
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			England was propping up Scotland long before the oil was discovered. Even with their share included in the GERS accounts, their annual deficit is still huge.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-04-2021, 14:11
			
			
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				It's all about sovereignty, facts and figures are irrelevant. Sound familiar?    
			
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 Very.
 
The difference is that the UK can afford the hit.  Scotland alone however is far less able to do so and would be disconnecting itself from a far more deeply integrated and valuable internal market.  While the arguments around Brexit and Scexit are superficially similar in some ways, that’s all it is.  The consequences for Scotland of failing to grasp that would be profound.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-04-2021, 14:59
			
			
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			Many people in Scotland , do not want Indy2,  The Scottish Government cannot run the country , neglecting housing, education, NHS, just to put money towards Indy2,   Full of crooks and unworthy candidates,  as for the New Alba party they should be in an asylum ,Scotland Needs Westminster, and we love the English people,  we have family in England and we should never separate,   God help us if they get their way,  we cannot all pack up and leave Scotland at our age
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-04-2021, 15:29
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  papa smurf
					 
				 
				No one wants the oil the world is changing, we voted as a single entity, you should negotiate for them, ill get the pop corn in.   
			
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 I'm not so sure about that papa   
https://www.iogp.org/oil-natgas-in-everyday-life/
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-04-2021, 15:32
			
			
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				Many people in Scotland , do not want Indy2, 
			
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 Currently 45%-45% so all to play for on both sides of the debate!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-04-2021, 16:36
			
			
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 That's old school , everything will be made out of electrons by 2030 and run on wind, and solar power. Gretard has shown us the way, Scotland will be totally buggered by then and will be running on peat and charity donations   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-04-2021, 17:04
			
			
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				Many people in Scotland , do not want Indy2,  The Scottish Government cannot run the country , neglecting housing, education, NHS, just to put money towards Indy2,   Full of crooks and unworthy candidates,  as for the New Alba party they should be in an asylum ,Scotland Needs Westminster, and we love the English people,  we have family in England and we should never separate,   God help us if they get their way,  we cannot all pack up and leave Scotland at our age 
			
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 No problem then, don't vote for the SNP. 
 However if the Scots keep voting them in on a platform of another vote, then that's democracy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-04-2021, 17:17
			
			
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				No problem then, don't vote for the SNP. 
 However if the Scots keep voting them in on a platform of another vote, then that's democracy. 
			
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 The problem is that (until the Alba Party appeared) the separatist vote really had nowhere to go except to the SNP.  It’s a minority, but it’s the biggest minority. Politics-as-usual is possible through three mainstream parties, one of the left, one centrist and left-leaning, and one centre right (though notably less right than its English branch).  The unionist vote is therefore neatly split, and the only party that can plausibly run a minority administration is the SNP.  There are doubtless a few dingbats who believe in the union then overcompensate by voting for the party that’s appropriated all the saltires, but the SNP vote is essentially the separatist vote.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			IF Krankie was to get her wish, then the UK should adopt a new flag, first remove the Scottish blue, the help keep the Welsh happy by putting the Dragon on our flag.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-04-2021, 18:27
			
			
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			SNP reported to police over fraud  
POLICE have launched a probe into the SNPs finances following allegations of fraud.
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				Maybe they can use the North Sea oil as payment that we've pilfered over the years.  
Anyway Scotland voted to Remain, England voted to Leave, so England should pay the EU bill.  
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 As part of the UK, Scotland should pay it’s share.  
 
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				Many people in Scotland , do not want Indy2,  The Scottish Government cannot run the country , neglecting housing, education, NHS, just to put money towards Indy2,   Full of crooks and unworthy candidates,  as for the New Alba party they should be in an asylum ,Scotland Needs Westminster, and we love the English people,  we have family in England and we should never separate,   God help us if they get their way,  we cannot all pack up and leave Scotland at our age 
			
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 If the Scots really don’t want Indy2, they should jolly well stop supporting the SNP!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				As part of the UK, Scotland should pay it’s share. 
 
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If the Scots really don’t want Indy2, they should jolly well stop supporting the SNP! 
			
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"jolly well"???
 
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			04-04-2021, 15:22
			
			
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				"jolly well"??? 
Warning, warning!!
 
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 I wish that Hugh would resist the temptation to snipe in the way that he does.   
 
OB has made serious points.  The SNP is a governance disaster; their balance sheets is not sustainable on its own; their education system is a failure.  They have never set out their economic plan for independence - which is quite dishonest. 
 
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