Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[AlexanderHanff]

OK I have to say I feel a little embarrassed about all these offers of donations, but as requested I have put together a wish list on Amazon of the books from the reading list given to me by the postgrad Law Dept. at Lancaster University.

This list is recommended background reading (should be fun then) for my Masters:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/...ndard&x=13&y=9

It is quite long...

Alexander Hanff

[mikebibbings]

Originally Posted by Florence

Can someone point me into the direction where it is said that the Home Office is the place to get an investigation started when RIPA rules have been susspected broken. I need it to point Simon to on my next reply since he says it is the police who deal with criminal investigations.

Florence ICO statement about Home Office being responsible is here:

http://www.ico.gov.uk/Home/about_us/...e_and_oie.aspx

[mark777]

The ICO opens a case


http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pi...il/084518.html

[CaptJamieHunter]

Originally Posted by mark777

The ICO opens a case

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pi...il/084518.html

<Bill Hicks>
Hallelujah!
</Bill Hicks>

I got one of these through today as well. A different case number too... Missed it as I was working from a laptop rather than my usual PC.

"Dear CaptHunter

Thank you for your correspondence dated 29th February 2008, regarding Virgin Media and Phorm. Please accept my apologies for the delay in acknowledging you, our office is currently dealing with large volumes of work. This has meant that we have been unable to deal with incoming correspondence as promptly as we would like..."

[lucevans]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

OK I have to say I feel a little embarrassed about all these offers of donations, but as requested I have put together a wish list on Amazon of the books from the reading list given to me by the postgrad Law Dept. at Lancaster University.

This list is recommended background reading (should be fun then) for my Masters:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/...ndard&x=13&y=9

It is quite long...

Alexander Hanff

One copy of "Constitutional Law of the European Union" on it's way to you Sir.

Once again, My sincere thanks for everything you're doing for this cause.

Rob.

[AlexanderHanff]

Thanks to everyone, it will help me in my studies a great deal.

Alexander Hanff

[CWH]

As is "Understanding Law"
A small help towards all that you have done on our behalf.

Colin

Hi

I felt I should register here as I'm yet another avid lurker of this thread - I can usually be seen posting somewhat gloating messages in the comments section of particularly Phorm damaging articles @El Reg!

Respect to all here!

With regard to NebuAd whose Phorm like spyware is already deployed by a great many ISP's the other side of the pond. NebuAd is an Opt-Out cookie driven system based on consent via contractual small print - identical to the business model Phorm would need to rely on to bring in any kind of worthwhile revenue for their "poor hard up" UK ISP customers!

Here's their FAQ:

http://www.nebuad.com/privacy/servicesPrivacy.php

Some of my personal fave snippets:

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"While NebuAd does not require or process any end-user personally-identifiable information for the purpose of delivering advertisements, our partners may have different privacy practices than our own."

"We may also disclose information we have collected when we have a good-faith belief that access, use, preservation or disclosure of such information is reasonably necessary"

"If NebuAd becomes involved in a merger, acquisition, or any form of sale of a majority or all of its assets, any information we have collected may be one of the assets transferred."

"The information we collect is stored and processed on NebuAd’s servers in the United States. As a result, that information may be subject to access requests by governments, courts or law enforcement."

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How about that! And to think Kent Ertugrul assumed he was going to be able to get away with that kind of cr@p here! Encouraged, undoubtably, by the "official" bodies he has approached in the UK in order to validate this blatently intrusive and seemingly illegal system who all seem to have intimated that, possibly for the benefit of their own hidden agendas, if he can pull it off they'll turn a blind eye!!


Well without the efforts of the forum members here plus other likeminded individuals on the Net and not forgetting El Reg then the above would already be included in the T&Cs of the top 5 ISPs in the UK - You know it would!!


@Alexander Hanff - If only I'd have had something this juicy to base my dissertation on!


Thanks


Paul

[CaptJamieHunter]

Alexander's speech on Tuesday night has clocked up 208 downloads. In the 22 hours 45 minutes the 135Mb of video files has been online, 34.3Gb has been downloaded.

The videos and a brief explanation can now be seen here as well as the Divshare locations. Please Reddit, Digg, Stumbleupon, Facebook, blog or whatever else you can do to publicise this page rather than the Divshare locations - I'm told there's better bandwidth.

A little humour, inspired by Ravenheart and based on Deep Purple mk III's song Burn...

Phorm (with thanks/apologies as appropriate to David Coverdale, Ritchie Blackmore, Glenn Hughes, Jon Lord and Ian Paice)

"My net's gone to pot
I don't understand
At 20 Meg my speed should be grand
People are saying my privacy's damned
Yet Virgin Media's statements are bland

My screen's got these ads
From where I don't know
Who's my ISP telling where I go
A little research
Ask some techies I know

All I hear

Is Phorm

They didn't believe
All of Kent's words
He said "You can trust us
Now that we're rephormed.
We might have been bad
but not any more."

The techies laughed
At the claims of Phorm

BT lied and tried to mask
Secret tests with Phorm
Their users weren't asked
When the truth came out
MPs were aghast

At BT

And Phorm

You know the ICO
They would not do a thing
You know the ICO...
*whispers* Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing

*guitar solo*

Dr Richard said that laws
Had been broken by BT and Phorm
And Alex said so too
*whispers* But you know the ICO...

*keyboard solo*

The web's gone to pot
And we all understand
The government's complicit
The Home Office is damned

By doing nothing
Played into Kent's hands
Our privacy's dead
There's blood on their hands

Our warning came
They didn't care
Rights were violated
They stood and stared

By then it was too late
No one was spared

And all because

Of Phorm"

There's a song called Stormbringer that just begs to be transphormed... Phormbringer!

[TehTech]

Hey all!

I have spent since this afternoon making up a pc presentation application on my laptop that I thought I would burn and then send to friends & family and just about anyone I can think of to spread the word on Phorm.

When it is all complete, I will also torrent it so it has wider publicity.

If anyone would like to have a look at it, make any criticisms or additional information to add, then by all means feel free to do so!

As a funny, chilish moment, move your mouse over Kent's pic for a laugh!!

Click HERE

Dont forget to let me know what you think so far!

[ceedee]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

This list is recommended background reading (should be fun then) for my Masters:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/...ndard&x=13&y=9

It is quite long...

It's getting shorter...

"European Union Law (Core Texts)" on its way to you.
Thanks for your hard work.

[CaptJamieHunter]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Thanks to everyone, it will help me in my studies a great deal.

Alexander Hanff

A copy of "International Law: Classic and Contemporary Readings" is also headed your way.

[mark777]

Ditto "European Social Law and Policy (European Law Series)"

[Ravenheart]

Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter

A little humour, inspired by Ravenheart and based on Deep Purple mk III's song Burn...

Hey don't blame me...

Here's the one I did, and posted on my Blog so you may not have seen it

To the tune of Born To Be Wild by Steppenwolf

Get your PC runnin
on the information superhighway
looking for a laptop
and some tat from ebay
Yeah Google’s gonna make it happen
search the world of cyberspace
enter my credit card details
and my order is placed

Oh **** i’m getting profiled
with ads i’m snowed under
do i want shark fins?
or a disk of chumbawuma?
Stop Phorm now so it don’t happen
Send Kent back to the states
take his nasty spyware with him
we don’t want in this place

I’m not going to be profiled
and Phorm, you’re reviled
your shares were high
and now they’re gonna die

Phorm made us wild
Phorm made us wild

I’ll get me coat!

Breakin the law has to be a good one to cover too

[flowrebmit]

Originally Posted by Dephormation

This assertion by Phorm that IP addresses are some how personal, and Phorms UID is some how not... That bit always makes my teeth grind.

The 'number' cookie is called 'UID' by name (Phorms choice of name).

A User ID.

An identifier for a user. A unique identifier for a specific user.

An ip address is more anonymous. A third party couldn't know who it was associated with.

On the other hand, if I can get your UID (and currently it looks trivial to do so using either Javascript or leaks on non standard/https requests)... I have identified you regardless of your IP address.

An IP address is just a number, and its meaning depends on where it is used, for example in the header of an IP packet.

Interestingly, the Phorm UID is just a 16 byte number. (the size was mentioned in Dr Richard Clayton's paper).

The current IPv4 addresses are just 4 byte numbers, that are usually written for humans in a dot quad notation, and have a particular meaning when used in the headers of IP packets. To allow the expansion of the internet, the IPv6 addresses were engineered to accomodate the IPv4 addresses.

The IPv6 addresses are 16 byte numbers, it must just be a coincidence that the Phorm UID numbers are stored in the same number of bytes.