Post-Brexit Thread

[denphone]

Brexit is going to happen Mr K so you better get used to it but that does not mean that one cannot have rational and constructive opinions on it whether some on this forum like it or not.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Yes "we're" do.

I'm not wrong, they didn't commit ground forces In Iraq. They, along with pretty much every other European NATO nation, don't pull their weight or pay their way.

They haven't earned No.2 slot. Simple.

You said that they'd not "actually joined in with a foreign conflict in the last 15 years or so".

They have - so your statement is wrong.

Whether they have earned the No. 2 slot is a different matter.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

They have - so your statement is wrong

Come on old chap, don't be squabblesome

Originally Posted by Mr K

Doubt it will really change anything though. MPs are too scared of their seats to vote for the good of the country.

Or perhaps they are scared of what the ramifications could be if MPs ignore Democracy and most importantly, they are voting for the good of the Country because we will be better out and I mean out completely.

[Osem]

Staying in the EU is far from risk/cost free but you'd never think that based on all the one way rhetoric emanating from many on the remain side. I really could understand it if the EU was a haven of social stability, widespread economic growth and harmonious inter-state relationships but since when was it that and what are its long term prospects?

Furthermore we ought to expect a whole load of mind games from those we're going to be negotiating with and it strikes me as odd that some people seem willing to accept almost without question all the warnings, threats and otherwise from an institution which clearly doesn't want the UK to leave and has a vested interest in predicting the most dire consequences in an effort to weaken the UK's bargaining position. When all said and done the UK is, IIRC, the EU's second largest net contributor yet you'd often think it was the other way round...

[papa smurf]

Brexit latest: Europe more at risk from hard financial Brexit than UK, says Mark Carney

The European Union is at greater risk than the UK if the two parties are unable to agree a financial transition phase for the City of London after Brexit in 2019, the Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, has warned.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7521861.html

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Brexit latest: Europe more at risk from hard financial Brexit than UK, says Mark Carney

The European Union is at greater risk than the UK if the two parties are unable to agree a financial transition phase for the City of London after Brexit in 2019, the Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, has warned.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7521861.html

But I thought he was a useless Bremoaner who should be fired?

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Hugh

But I thought he was a useless Bremoaner who should be fired?

Law of averages means he's got to get the odd thing right now and then

I think it's time everyone understood that hard brexit is what we will have the exit process basically gaurantees it and purposely so to try and prevent members from leaving. There is not going to be any deal on access to the single market despite what some might hope and while there are a plethora of doom and gloom predictions especially about the financial sector the freedom the UK will have to make the UK an attractive place greatly increase.

There is no easy all skipping off into the future with this short term things will get difficult and have a cost to many of us but it is a price worth paying ultimately for the ability to adapt our nation to the entire world not just EU member states. For me and for a lot of others i know the referendum was not about me it was my belief in what will be better for my kids and grandkids and nothing has changed since i cast my vote. If the national division this has created was the only issue being honest I'd change my vote as i never wanted to damage my country but it isn't the only or even main issue.

It is funny how after we vote to leave all the growing problems within the EU have been forgotten and we'd be forgiven for thinking that the EU is this fantastic trouble free harmonious entity that you'd have to mentally ill to want to leave. It wasn't and it isn't and there are just as many experts that are pessimistic about the future of the EU as there are about brexit. Brexit is a complete unknown it's never happened before and no one knows anything for certain and over the last few months when I've had the chance to speak to various people that would qualify as experts they pretty much all agree that things are entering a period of great uncertainty.

[pip08456]

Well at least someone has finally accepted it.

Philip Hammond today admitted that he had finally come to terms with the public’s decision to back Brexit despite his previous warnings about leaving the EU.

In a significant shift in tone, the Chancellor urged fellow Remain supporters to accept the result and focus on achieving a strong divorce deal with Brussels.

Mr Hammond, who has attracted criticism for his gloomy tone in the aftermath of the referendum, said that his position had ‘moved on’ after once claiming that Brexit would leave Britain poorer.

‘The referendum decision is irreversible,’ he said. ‘People like me who believed that it was better to remain inside the EU and to campaign for reform within, have moved on.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti..._campaign=1490

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Brexit is a complete unknown it's never happened before and no one knows anything for certain and over the last few months when I've had the chance to speak to various people that would qualify as experts they pretty much all agree that things are entering a period of great uncertainty.

Stay strong Rizzy. Even an uncertain freedom is preferable to a certain death .

‘People like me who believed that it was better to remain inside the EU and to campaign for reform within, were wrong'.

Fixed to what he really wanted to say

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Hugh

But I thought he was a useless Bremoaner who should be fired?

Yes our reliable Papa seems to have developed a bit of convenient memory loss.

Originally Posted by Kursk

Stay strong Rizzy. Even an uncertain freedom is preferable to a certain death .


Fixed to what he really wanted to say

A reminder of something Mick posted yesterday

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...7#post35879867

Originally Posted by Mick

Member Quotes : From today, I do not want to be seeing any body misquoting another forum member. This means, changing someones original quote and making it in to something else entirely, this means adding words or sentences that was not originally said. It could be considered Provocation and provoking other members, is not permitted as per the sites terms of use.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

But I thought he was a useless Bremoaner who should be fired?

Maybe he woke up and smelled the coffee?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Law of averages means he's got to get the odd thing right now and then

My my old boy you seem to be following Papa in developing convenient memory loss as well but l forgive you.