[Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds Late Summer 2004
06-05-2004, 14:20
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
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Originally Posted by Hell's Child
Deadly serious i'm afraid. Ntl make as little as 4% on DTV which mostly goes on the cost of providing the service (boxes, sending the signal etc)
Sky take most of the money, as they hold the leases on all of the channels, this is one of the reasons it tool ntl so long to gain access to sky sports Xtra as sky were after too much for it.
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4% seems rather low when one considers that the OFT have a say on what prices Sky have on their rate card for wholesale provision of premium channels. Non premium channels, in particular shopping channels, should generate far more than 4% profit for cablecos.
If NTL are not making a profit on DTV then it is rather peculiar that they do not increase the price of DTV packages to customers at the same time as Sky does. Sky increased their prices in January but NTL are not increasing theirs until June. That would suggest that if NTL are only making 4% they would be supplying customers for less than cost price for five months if the Sky rate card changed in January as well.
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06-05-2004, 14:21
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
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UK internet service provider PlusNet has launched a 512Kbps broadband service for £14.99 a month.
It could spark a new price war as operators continue to fight to attract customers.
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From news.bbc.co.uk. Makes NTL look even less competitive than they already do 
I've had NTL BB for ~3 years now (IIRC) I think it's finally time to leave, the service is overpriced, under specced and the refusal to review the cap at 1.5Mb is just idiocy. This time I'll be voting with my feet (and wallet) by cancelling all 3 of my NTL services.
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06-05-2004, 16:23
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
PC_Arcade - NTl has a cap about thirty times bigger though
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1GB monthly bandwidth allowance.
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If you want to moan about ntl compare like with like.
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06-05-2004, 16:34
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
Sorry, that was purely an example of a cheaper product,
http://www.solo.pipex.net/xtreme-sol...b484efedd33c79
£1 cheaper, no cap
http://www.bulldogdsl.com/residentia...time/a2000.asp
Same price twice the speed - no cap, I can't be bothered to look through every ISP in the country who are offering a "better than NTL" product (because it'll be ~90% IMHO) but there's 2 for starters.
NTL are "having a laugh" at their customers expense and I for one am fed up with it
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06-05-2004, 16:45
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
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Originally Posted by Pem
Telewests is 750k - exactly the same as the new NTL speed.
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Pem sorry to burst your bubble but its marketed as 750K but they have given 768K. Some have already been upgraded and are reporting that on our forums.
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taken from Blueyounders FAQ
"blueyonder broadband 512k: The download speed of the standard 512k blueyonder broadband service will increase from 512Kbps to 768Kbps, but still cost from only £25 per month "
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To check please follow this here to telewests FAQ and look at quote 3.
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06-05-2004, 16:59
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
Telewest don't hang about do they? Good news for their customers.
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06-05-2004, 17:09
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
Well not suprised think about it!!! If you wanted to upgrade from 600K to 1mb how long does it take them to upgrade you and change the bill to cover the extra costs?
No different if you are going down but if they plan to give you something they didn't really want to give only a face saving increase to keep Telewest in their sights you have to wait months.. Just worry if they start to say coming soon!
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06-05-2004, 18:10
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
So when will we get our upgrades? (NTL)
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06-05-2004, 18:13
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
Sorry for juining this thresd, but mine was closed because of duplication. My question is the same as above. When are these changes to take place.
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06-05-2004, 18:15
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
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Originally Posted by caveman
Sorry for juining this thresd, but mine was closed because of duplication. My question is the same as above. When are these changes to take place.
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coming soon , sorry couldnt reist . late summer is the latest best guess 
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06-05-2004, 18:25
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
my guess will be when the price increase comes into force
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06-05-2004, 18:57
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
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Originally Posted by Pem
Telewests is 750k - exactly the same as the new NTL speed.
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No, it is 768K. Ive been upgraded and it shows that in the modem diagnostics page.
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06-05-2004, 19:38
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
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Originally Posted by rnb14
No, it is 768K. Ive been upgraded and it shows that in the modem diagnostics page.
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and thats that cleared up , hopefully the last that will be heard of it 
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06-05-2004, 20:53
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
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Originally Posted by rnb14
No, it is 768K. Ive been upgraded and it shows that in the modem diagnostics page.
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You mean your diagnostics says 768000 which is 750k (1k = 1024). 
To quote the TW site
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blueyonder broadband 750Kb The standard blueyonder broadband service will increase in speed from 512Kb to 750Kb, but still cost from only £25 per month (£27.99 if no other Telewest service is taken).
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06-05-2004, 21:12
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Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
It all seem like a very nice marketing tool for Ntl, they may increase the "up to" speed, but if end customers don't receive this speed on speed tests and downloads (mainly due to those bloody proxy's/caches) whats the point?? I'll stick with Bulldog for now and monitor the BB pricing war/situation from the comfort of my 2mbit enabled ADSL comp 
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