Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Good job I’m not going to the US in the near future. I am however going to Spain in a couple of weeks and that’s fine as the Euro is also in the toilet.

I'm glad we never got a round to cashing in the $'s we've got as we're hoping to get back there in the next few months.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jfman

€1.12 the lowest it’s been all year.

Climate change, mate.

Face it, the world’s in some turmoil and rolling the dice I was Truss’ only option in Britain’s case.

[1andrew1]

Not unexpected given the current labour shortages

Liz Truss to review visa schemes in bid to ease UK labour shortages

PM set to defy anti-immigration Conservative MPs by boosting intake in some industries

Liz Truss is to launch a big review of Britain’s visa system to tackle acute labour shortages in key industries in a move that was welcomed by business leaders.

The prime minister is set to defy some of her anti-immigration cabinet colleagues by making changes to the “shortage occupation list”, allowing certain industries to bring in more staff — such as broadband engineers — from overseas.

The review could also endorse a loosening of the requirement to speak English in some sectors to enable more foreign workers into the country.

Inclusion on the Home Office list allows migrants from outside the EU simpler entry to Britain owing to lower visa fees and a waiving of employers’ usual duty to prove that there is no suitable local worker for the role. In the longer term, migrants do not have to meet the £35,800 salary threshold required to settle in the UK after five years.

Allies of Truss said the new prime minister was committed to ensuring the UK would remain a world leader in attracting and retaining talented workers.

But her review of the immigration system is likely to run into opposition from some Brexiters in her cabinet, given anti-immigration sentiment was a key driver of the vote to leave the EU in 2016.

https://www.ft.com/content/de5e54e2-...1-860f52d5d1e3

[jfman]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Not unexpected given the current labour shortages

https://www.ft.com/content/de5e54e2-...1-860f52d5d1e3

A race to the bottom. Undermining wages, adding pressure to public services already at breaking point.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jfman

A race to the bottom. Undermining wages, adding pressure to public services already at breaking point.

Where else will we find the carers (Brits don’t want those jobs?). Nurses and doctors (it takes years to train doctors)? Anywhere else there’s labour shortage?

Is there a glut of fully trained doctors / nurses / carers in other countries ?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Paul

Is there a glut of fully trained doctors / nurses / carers in other countries ?

Not that I know of. I was merely commenting on the Guvmin’s motivation in response to Jinan’s remarks.

Why do you ask?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

A race to the bottom. Undermining wages, adding pressure to public services already at breaking point.

It won’t undermine wages if there are not enough people to recruit. Immigration should relate to the needs of industry where there are insufficient people from the U.K. to take those jobs.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Where else will we find the carers (Brits don’t want those jobs?). Nurses and doctors (it takes years to train doctors)? Anywhere else there’s labour shortage?

We can pay them more for a start. Being a carer, especially adult care for people with difficulties, is a stressful and challenging job and yet many of these carers would be better off working in Tesco.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Damien

We can pay them more for a start. Being a carer, especially adult care for people with difficulties, is a stressful and challenging job and yet many of these carers would be better off working in Tesco.

I agree. Every effort should be made by employers to recruit within the UK, which should include offering an appropriate rate of pay. Employers should have to show that they have genuinely tried to recruit without success before getting permission to recruit from overseas.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It won’t undermine wages if there are not enough people to recruit. Immigration should relate to the needs of industry where there are insufficient people from the U.K. to take those jobs.

Of course it undermines wages. Rather than pay enough to recruit they’re increasing labour supply by importing it. Basic capitalist economics I’m sure even you could understand!

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I agree. Every effort should be made by employers to recruit within the UK, which should include offering an appropriate rate of pay. Employers should have to show that they have genuinely tried to recruit without success before getting permission to recruit from overseas.

Pay more. I know driving up working conditions is an alien concept to you, but generally the population view it as desirable.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Of course it undermines wages. Rather than pay enough to recruit they’re increasing labour supply by importing it. Basic capitalist economics I’m sure even you could understand!.

You assume too much and read things into comments that aren’t there.

I don’t know whose wages you think it undermines when the people wanting such work in this country simply aren’t there.

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Originally Posted by jfman

Pay more. I know driving up working conditions is an alien concept to you, but generally the population view it as desirable.

With that I agree, and provide suitable training, too. That is exactly what the government has been advocating post Brexit.

Unfortunately there are too many people who are fit to work but just claiming benefits without even trying to find work.

One person I know hasn’t worked for years. She’s fit and healthy but simply doesn’t want to work. But she’s been claiming benefits all this time. If she can do this so easily, why would she want to go to work?

So unless we tackle these people head on, employers will continue to struggle in getting people to do low paid jobs.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

A race to the bottom. Undermining wages, adding pressure to public services already at breaking point.

It's penalising British workers as there's no reciprocity.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's penalising British workers as there's no reciprocity.

exactly workers get condemned for asking for a rise but government going to borrow billions just to give to the very rich it total madness

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Dave42

exactly workers get condemned for asking for a rise but government going to borrow billions just to give to the very rich it total madness

It’s to encourage wealth creation and to grow the economy. We will all benefit from such a policy.