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[Now Official] More ntl speed changes
View Poll Results: What tier are you on and will you change when new speeds are introduced?
On 300k will stay with 1Mb 34 14.35%
On 300k will change to 2MB 7 2.95%
On 300k will upgrade to 3Mb 0 0%
On 750k will stay with 2Mb 65 27.43%
on 750k will drop to 1Mb 20 8.44%
On 750k Will upgrade to 3Mb 7 2.95%
On 1.5Mb will stay with 3Mb 76 32.07%
On 1.5Mb will drop to 2Mb 17 7.17%
On 1.5Mb will drop to 1Mb 3 1.27%
I will not change to the new speeds 8 3.38%
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Old 05-11-2004, 10:22   #331
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The deal is very competative there is no doubt that it is much better than what is being offered by most ASDL providers and NTL should be applauded for it. Caps though are a retrograde step IMO it's all very well saying it's the way things are now all providers are going this way etc but in the end they will have to open up the networks and remove the caps as speeds increase further in the next few years although in this country it will probably take a few years longer and probably require OFCOM to step in at some point.

Although we are getting a little ahead of ourselves again as we still don't know how caps will be enforced or what charges per gig will be made if NTL make these charges as competative as the new tiers then I think we cant really complain too much i.e. around a pound per gig.

Although (sorry to go on lol) with the new tiers

1Mb with a 5GB cap = £3.59 per gig
2Mb = £0.83 per gig
3Mb = £0.94 per gig
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Old 05-11-2004, 11:09   #332
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes

So are NTL going to provide an ACCURATE means of monitoring bandwidth use then?

If they don't (as is the case now) then I can't see they can reasonably enforce their "cap" as the end user, especially those with a home network, can't see how much bandwidth they are using.
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Old 05-11-2004, 11:21   #333
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I think for £18 a month you cant expect both a high speed and a massive allowance. If you want something more substantal then pay the extra £7 or stick with your existing 300k tier. A lot of ADSL priced at the under £20 market have either a low speed or a low GB allowance - arent there some where you can only use 1GB a month?!
No, as the people with 750K still pay £25.99 a month for 30GB allowance. I'm not paying £7 more as I can't afford it, and I'm not able to get ADSL or anything else. NTL is my only option here, I think they could put the 1MB allowance up though, to at least 10GB. Then I would be able to play my games at least
 
Old 05-11-2004, 11:39   #334
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No, as the people with 750K still pay £25.99 a month for 30GB allowance. I'm not paying £7 more as I can't afford it, and I'm not able to get ADSL or anything else. NTL is my only option here, I think they could put the 1MB allowance up though, to at least 10GB. Then I would be able to play my games at least
if they did that (increase the 1mb allowance to 10gb) then there'd be less incentive to buy the 2mb product and they'd also be offering an incentive to some £25 a month people to downgrade to the low tier.
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The Current preposed caps are just I'll conceived.
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if they did that (increase the 1mb allowance to 10gb) then there'd be less incentive to buy the 2mb product and they'd also be offering an incentive to some £25 a month people to downgrade to the low tier.
Well I'll be sticking with 300K or moving to another ISP when possible because I don't like the way NTL just drop our allowance like that
 
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Well I'll be sticking with 300K or moving to another ISP when possible because I don't like the way NTL just drop our allowance like that
you might find the 5gb limit isnt stringently enforced? you say you'd prefer 10gb - perhaps it's worth sticking with NTL and waiting until you're hassled about how much you use. the existing 1gb a day limit is known to be stretched by a number of users!
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you might find the 5gb limit isnt stringently enforced? you say you'd prefer 10gb - perhaps it's worth sticking with NTL and waiting until you're hassled about how much you use. the existing 1gb a day limit is known to be stretched by a number of users!
Wish there was a program that could do that, since I mostly play games, talk to people on TeamSpeak, listen to music streams and browse forums
 
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Enough!
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Wish there was a program that could do that, since I mostly play games, talk to people on TeamSpeak, listen to music streams and browse forums
Scott - there are loads of free bandwidth monitors out there -MRTG/PRTG for example.

have a look here bandwidth stuff
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PRTG is great:

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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes

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So are NTL going to provide an ACCURATE means of monitoring bandwidth use then?

If they don't (as is the case now) then I can't see they can reasonably enforce their "cap" as the end user, especially those with a home network, can't see how much bandwidth they are using.
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Scott - there are loads of free bandwidth monitors out there -MRTG/PRTG for example.

have a look here bandwidth stuff
Thanks, downloaded EMSA bandwidth monitor (nice and small) and it's working
 
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes

Also what about Xbox live users you can't monitor that bandwidth but I bet it's still counted in your allowance as NTL wont be able to differentiate that from normal usage even though its a seperate service.
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Also what about Xbox live users you can't monitor that bandwidth but I bet it's still counted in your allowance as NTL wont be able to differentiate that from normal usage even though its a seperate service.
It really does depend how monitoring is done.

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