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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			hehehehe made me laugh   
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			14-04-2008, 18:36
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			I said to someone earlier that the Phorm share price graph should be accompanied by the death sound from Pacman   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			14-04-2008, 18:39
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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 That last pic is like my batting average - going down!  Here's hoping what happened to me happens to Phorm...
 
I got dropped
  
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				I said to someone earlier that the Phorm share price graph should be accompanied by the death sound from Pacman    
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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 I'm considering it if I have time. Maybe a gif without sound first and then a flash animation with sound. I have a portrait commission to phinish ( haha, I'm leaving this unintended typo in, I must be brainwashed ) first as a memorial tribute so I'd like to get that completed before I do anything else today.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			I did a really crap wmv the other day, the image quality is awful. 
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"Pacman and the cookie quest"
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				That last pic is like my batting average - going down!  Here's hoping what happened to me happens to Phorm... 
I got dropped
   
			
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			14-04-2008, 19:11
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			My email to  emma.sanderson@bt.com :
 Hello Emma, 
 
I was wondering what BT plans to do with regards to the illegal trials of the Phorm technology in 2006/2007? 
 
Given that the press have reported the number of participants involved in 2007 could have been as high as 108 000 people how do you intend to defend millions of violations of the following laws: 
 
European Convention on Human Rights 
Human Rights Act 
Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 
Privacy and Electronic Communications (EC Directive) Regulations 
Computer Misuse Act 
Fraud Act 
Torts (Interference with Goods) Act 
Data Protection Act 
Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 
Council of Europe's Convention on Cybercrime 
 
It would be useful to have a statement from you for my dissertation which you should be proud to know is a critical evaluation of the BT PLC trials of Phorm's technology in 2006/2007 based on an analysis of the above laws and regulations. 
 
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				My email to  emma.sanderson@bt.com :
 Hello Emma, 
 
I was wondering what BT plans to do with regards to the illegal trials of the Phorm technology in 2006/2007? 
 
Given that the press have reported the number of participants involved in 2007 could have been as high as 108 000 people how do you intend to defend millions of violations of the following laws: 
 
European Convention on Human Rights 
Human Rights Act 
Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 
Privacy and Electronic Communications (EC Directive) Regulations 
Computer Misuse Act 
Fraud Act 
Torts (Interference with Goods) Act 
Data Protection Act 
Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 
Council of Europe's Convention on Cybercrime 
 
It would be useful to have a statement from you for my dissertation which you should be proud to know is a critical evaluation of the BT PLC trials of Phorm's technology in 2006/2007 based on an analysis of the above laws and regulations. 
 
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 Fantastic Alexander.
 
I don't propose that you will see a favourable response but keeping the pressure up this way is a must.
 
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			Hi there, 
I'm the author of Dephormation... I'm going to be looking for a new home shortly.  My VM contract terminates 20 April so no more vm.d.g ... Can I join you lot instead?   
Regards the Dephormation alert you see if images are embedded in cable forum from the Phorm site, that's by design. Because you've got links in your page to a Phorm/OIX/Webwise domain, the add on gives you an alert. 
 
I read Simon's posts regarding the Home Office with interest. After the Police refused to investigate a RIPA complaint, I've been trying to get a reply out of the Home Office for the last few days. I phoned up today, and got bluffed off... they told me that the team concerned don't have a telephone number and only accept complaints by email. I haven't had a reply.
 
See  http://security.homeoffice.gov.uk/ripa/about-ripa/
Similarly ICO, no reply to any email I've sent.
 
I'm also following the Earl of Northesks question to the Government that was supposedly to be answered by MoJ/DfBERR. That's almost two weeks overdue now for a reply.
 
My MP has also asked the DfBERR for an explanation, and also had no reply.
 
I've more or less run out of people to complain to now. And had no explanation from anyone.
 
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				After asking the Home Office what "the official Home Office stance is on the 
provision under RIPA for both parties in the conversation giving consent to be 
intercepted?".  I have recieved a reply telling me  
 
"The matters you have raised are the responsibility of Department for 
Business Enterprise & Regulatory Reform." 
 
And they have forwarded my e-mail.  So much for RIPA being the responsibility of the Home Office? 
 
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 I had a written reply from my MP a few days ago saying he had written to John Hutton, the Business Secretary. i.e. the same department, passing on my concerns.
 
So same message as Home Office from a Labour MP.
 
I don't know if they are trying to deflect this by dealing with the advertising bit rather than the privacy bit?
 
This department is responsible for regulatory reform though so I don't know if that has a bearing. 
 
I don't expect to hear anything until after the local elections.
 
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				Hi there, 
I'm the author of Dephormation... I'm going to be looking for a new home shortly.  My VM contract terminates 20 April so no more vm.d.g ... Can I join you lot instead?   
Regards the Dephormation alert you see if images are embedded in cable forum from the Phorm site, that's by design. Because you've got links in your page to a Phorm/OIX/Webwise domain, the add on gives you an alert.  
			
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 Hi Pete   
First of can I thank you for the Dephormation Firefox add-on. Also many thanks for clarifying the issue I had earlier this morning, having not seen it activate before I started thinking the worst.
 
I'm sure you'll be more than welcome here on CF.
 
Thanks again for your work   
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I've been listening to  Clash, I Fought the Law (and the Law won) (live) lately, on nice and loud.
 
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