[Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds Late Summer 2004

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by DrAwesome

Adsl is still faster & is still an attractive option...




Probably rejoice that NTL employees might have had a decent wage rise.

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No such luck...

[Chris W]

Originally Posted by DrAwesome

Probably rejoice that NTL employees might have had a decent wage rise.

er... sorry a what i looked up 'wage rise' in my ntl dictionary but i couldn't find it.... :pp

[Lew]

Originally Posted by danielf

But then again, online tele looks very enticing, so my bandwidth hunger my grow exponentially

It's quite nice whenâ₠¬Ã‚¦

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†¦connection, but in all theââ‚Âà ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¦

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†¦time I've been on NTL cable (at 600Kbps and 1Mbps)ââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¦

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†¦I've noticed that it's quite rare for that to happen. I can justâ₠¬Ã‚¦

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†¦about understand that there may be the rare occasionââ‚à ƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¦

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†¦when a 350Kbps MLB.TV stream from the US could drop to less than 100Kbpsââ‚à ‚¬Ã‚¦

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†¦but I even get problems on a 32Kbps RealOne stream from BBC Radio. Maybe ifâ₠¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¦

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†¦this can get sorted out then online TV would be a viable option but I can't see it right now

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[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by DeadKenny

I really don't like this assumption that all 1Mbps users will obviously love to pay NTL £3 more. £35 a month is still a hell of a lot in the first place!

If I look at it the way some are blindly doing and take the £3 rise as a rise on the 1Mbps service ignoring the "free" upgrade later, then being asked to pay £3 more for 1Mbps when everyone else isn't being asked for more money and neither are Telewest customers, then it's an outrage! In that case, what am I getting for my extra £3 (again, ignoring the free upgrade later... assume we don't know about that yet)?... nothing

Either way, it's £3 a month (£36 a year) more I'd rather not be paying.

then vote with you wallet , drop back to 600/750 , lose a quarter of your speed but be £13/month better off , i know what i would do

Originally Posted by monkeybreath

er... sorry a what i looked up 'wage rise' in my ntl dictionary but i couldn't find it.... :pp

It was removed when NTL took over from Cable & Wireless

[Tristan]

If Heinz put up the price of their biggest tin of beans by a fraction under 8%, but gave you 50% more beans in every can, would you complain? Would you hell. You'd probably think Heinz were being very generous.

So where does the difference lie in this case?

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by Tristan

If Heinz put up the price of their biggest tin of beans by a fraction under 8%, but gave you 50% more beans in every can, would you complain? Would you hell. You'd probably think Heinz were being very generous.

So where does the difference lie in this case?

I would complain as more beans = more farts.

[DeadKenny]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

then vote with you wallet , drop back to 600/750 , lose a quarter of your speed but be £13/month better off , i know what i would do

Yep, that's exactly what I'll be doing as I've already said. The 750kbps is no problem really, but it's just a shame I'll have to drop to the pathetic 128kbps upstream. It's about time I cut back on stuff I'm wasting money on anyway

[etccarmageddon]

yeah 128 up IS a joke.

[DeadKenny]

Originally Posted by Tristan

If Heinz put up the price of their biggest tin of beans by a fraction under 8%, but gave you 50% more beans in every can, would you complain? Would you hell. You'd probably think Heinz were being very generous.

So where does the difference lie in this case?

This kind of thing goes on all the time in supermarkets. I see throught it straight away. If it's an item I don't normally buy, rather than doing like most of the sheep, I think twice about why they're giving 50% extra "free" (usually because they're not).

Same as HMV etc, who raise prices on CDs and then drop them for the sales so they're the same as they were before just with a big "SALE" sticker on them.

No difference, it's just all a con.

[th'engineer]

BTW has the cap been raised as well

[Defiant]

Originally Posted by th'engineer

BTW has the cap been raised as well

The cap wont go away. Your just not going to hear much about it for 1 year or so

[Mauldor]

Not sure on these Billions of replies if this has been mentioned but how much you pay is all compared to what is around you at the time. I remember paying for Dial up + Call Costs (wayyy back) then ISDN from thos lovelry BT people and then Call Charges on top of that - whey hey ...

I paid £50 a month for 1 mbit from NTL when it first come out, people where paying bags of dosh every month for 2mbit/256 were they not - mainly as the lower contention ratio....

I still say what NTL should do is split there product up even more - so you could have say 5-6 of them. People can then choose to pay for what they deem they want to use. You need 2 'Lite' Packages - this has a Proper CAP imposed but the price is well low (maybe they can check ADSL prices to pitch this in at) and include no email, no newsgroups etc.

Next up is the 'Home' User lets call it - no caps - email and limited news support. Maybe add some proper email space while there at it (PHP etc).

Lastly would be the 'power' user - 1mbit / 1.5mbit / 2mbit - fixed Ip, Full News Servers, Proper email (that actually works) and decent web space.

Now all you gotta do (not sure if this is possible like) is bunch the people together like - so a heavy user does not effect a normal user in any way.

I do like Erol little toliet thing - made me laugh that did

Originally Posted by DeadKenny

This kind of thing goes on all the time in supermarkets. I see throught it straight away. If it's an item I don't normally buy, rather than doing like most of the sheep, I think twice about why they're giving 50% extra "free" (usually because they're not).

Same as HMV etc, who raise prices on CDs and then drop them for the sales so they're the same as they were before just with a big "SALE" sticker on them.

No difference, it's just all a con.

If they advertise '50% extra free', they have to give it to you, the cost of supermarket promotions is largely borne by the manufacturer, rather than the retailer, so they supermarkets don't lose out

The question of whether the extra 50% on 1 meg is going to be 'free' is obviously moot, here. I must admit if I had 1 meg I would feel as if I were paying for it, through the price increase. I don't think I would go so far as to call it a 'con', though?

[Tristan]

Originally Posted by DeadKenny

This kind of thing goes on all the time in supermarkets. I see throught it straight away. If it's an item I don't normally buy, rather than doing like most of the sheep, I think twice about why they're giving 50% extra "free" (usually because they're not).

Same as HMV etc, who raise prices on CDs and then drop them for the sales so they're the same as they were before just with a big "SALE" sticker on them.

No difference, it's just all a con.

Right. But the point is that Heinz beans *are* a product that you normally buy. So you're getting 50% more product for 8% more cost. Which to me, and my "sheep" vision, is a good thing...