ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

[Hans Gruber]

Originally Posted by iron25

Downloading TV rips is no more illegal than recording a tv show onto video but hey let me guess...you've never done that before

I say lock up Rupert Murdoch and anyone with a Sky+ box!

[The_real_dj]

One thing i dont think people realise is how much these connections cost!!!
For a business 8MB line from NTL with no contention costs about £15k per year.
So 10MB with a 75GB cap is pretty darn good if you ask me

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Hans Gruber

I say lock up Rupert Murdoch and anyone with a Sky+ box!

yes but sir downloading them is a very very bad thing to do, the MPAA or the equivalent will be after you, heck even downloading webpages should not be done, how about we all just dont download anything eh ?

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by iron25

Downloading TV rips is no more illegal than recording a tv show onto video but hey let me guess...you've never done that before

Recording of TV from the broadcast in the UK onto video for time switching purposes is legal. Downloading copyright material without consent from newsgroups and p2p networks is not legal.

[iron25]

Originally Posted by kronas

yes but sir downloading them is a very very bad thing to do, the MPAA or the equivalent will be after, heck even downloading webpages should not be done, how about we all just dont download anything eh ?

What about all the pics of those girls we lust after...aren't they copyrighted ..there we go again, breaking the law..we're all perverted criminals and deserve to be locked up

[kronas]

Originally Posted by iron25

What about all the pics of those girls we lust after...aren't they copyrighted ..there we go again, breaking the law..we're all perverted criminals and deserve to be locked up

yes we should be

[Tristan]

Just so I'm clear here...

NTL have announced that before the end of the year, top tier customers will find their broadband speed more than tripled, and their cap allowance more than doubled... and people are *complaining* about it?

Jesus...

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Tristan

Just so I'm clear here...

NTL have announced that before the end of the year, top tier customers will find their broadband speed more than tripled, and their cap allowance more than doubled... and people are *complaining* about it?

Jesus...

im not complaining heck im ecstatic, im just interested in being a bit fairer about the cap, i dont know if it will be a hard cap or a soft cap, as they mentioned there being software to monitor usage, i still think 75GB is on the low side for multi streaming.

[AndrewJ]

Assuming






Good point that one there, tends to cover alot of what is being moaned about in this thread, ffs it is 2006 before we see most of this so WHY are we arguing and debating on rumored and fantasy stuff.

What news is released now is likely to change long before we get the speeds.

I think I'm going to have to leave this thread before I poke my eyes out.


I'll come back later and see if Richards prediction of 700 hundred posts wins him the bet..

[AndrewJ]

Agreed Incog I think this should be lockied because it will just end up with the same circular cap comments and rows about pricing.

It cannot be a factual debate when the facts are not out and aruging on rumors is well, stupid.

[iron25]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

II'll come back later and see if Richards prediction of 700 hundred posts wins him the bet..

Don't you think 700 is a bit on the low side...how many posts were made about the original 1gb a day cap and I agree with what other's have said, anything written is pure speculation & assumption and until NTL officially announce their plans we could go on forever. So I'm sorry to disappoint all my fans but I will no longer be posting in this thread and no amount of baiting is going to get me to type another...

[DeadKenny]

Originally Posted by ian@huth

Recording of TV from the broadcast in the UK onto video for time switching purposes is legal.

Indeed, and only for time shifting and has to be a temporary recording.

There's no fair use concept in UK copyright law unlike in the US which means you aren't really even allowed to keep a broadcast as an archive recording, and you definitely can't distribute and download them... without permission that is.

The BBC's forthcoming interactive media player uses a licenced system so that you can only keep recordings for a set period (much like Sky+ when recording premium material).


Going back to the subject of usage though. I run a fairly low bandwidth web server on my PlusNet connection and yet that will result in between 500mb and 1Gb a month alone if down and upstream traffic is considered. Add to that something like Fedora Core 4 which I downloaded this month which is another 2.5Gb, and a pile of other perfectly legit software downloads which probably add up to a few hundred Mb, the odd video (trailers, NASA & BBC feeds), and radio traffic (legit stuff), plus surfing media rich web sites and playing online games like Star Wars Galaxies, and I average around 5 or 6Gb a month.

Some months it's a lot more, but the highest I've ever done is 20Gb.

The UK average is actually around 6Gb a month.

75Gb is a lot. On the other hand with only 2Mbps connections, an extremely small percentage of PlusNet users were consuming up to 500Gb a month!!!, so 75Gb is by comparison very small especially for a 10Mbps connection.

The question is whether NTL's caps are counted on downstream only or on both up and down?

[slowcoach]

Anyone not enjoying the thread simply leave and let the others have their fun, don't ask to kill it.

[AndrewJ]

Originally Posted by slowcoach

Anyone not enjoying the thread simply leave and let the others have their fun, don't ask to kill it.

Apologies