is it going to get better??
09-12-2003, 04:32
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Re: is it going to get better??
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Originally Posted by salem
hi everyone
i've been with ntl for a few years now and have to say that things arn't looking good.
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Time to jump ship with the rest of us??
I wonder if an ISP would give us bulk discount!
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09-12-2003, 09:10
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Re: is it going to get better??
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Originally Posted by 2||Para
No i shut everything down,always do
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Don't forget guys that contention ratio is the single biggest factor in your line's performance.
The more subscribers in your area flooding the local exchange with traffic, the less likely your chances of getting maximum bandwidth.
(not sure if the cable infrastucture has an exchange in that sense, but you get my point hopefully)
I suggest para, that you do a bandwidth test at different times of day to get a more accurate picture of performance.
Peak usage is most likely to be between 6-11pm weekdays. So expect lower results at that time.
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09-12-2003, 12:13
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Re: is it going to get better??
Then I think you should try and get an ntl tech (shame there is no identifiable CLT here) to look into it for you
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09-12-2003, 12:55
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Re: is it going to get better??
Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:54:16 UTC
1st 128K took 10 ms = 13107200 Bytes/sec = approx 109052 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 20 ms = 6553600 Bytes/sec = approx 54526 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 10 ms = 13107200 Bytes/sec = approx 109052 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 10 ms = 13107200 Bytes/sec = approx 109052 kbits/sec
Ok tried a different time of day as suggested, this look better?
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09-12-2003, 12:57
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Re: is it going to get better??
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Originally Posted by 2||Para
Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:54:16 UTC
1st 128K took 10 ms = 13107200 Bytes/sec = approx 109052 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 20 ms = 6553600 Bytes/sec = approx 54526 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 10 ms = 13107200 Bytes/sec = approx 109052 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 10 ms = 13107200 Bytes/sec = approx 109052 kbits/sec
Ok tried a different time of day as suggested, this look better?
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 you do know that you should wipe the caches before a test.
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09-12-2003, 14:44
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Re: is it going to get better??
errrrrr..actually no i didnt whick cache in particular?
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09-12-2003, 15:31
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Re: is it going to get better??
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Originally Posted by 2||Para
errrrrr..actually no i didnt whick cache in particular?
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CTRL F5 should do it
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09-12-2003, 16:58
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Re: is it going to get better??
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Originally Posted by 2||Para
errrrrr..actually no i didnt whick cache in particular?
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sorry, the test works by timing a download, if it is in the cache it times how long it takes to retreve from the cache - which is waaaaaay faster than any connection. According to those results you were getting about 100mb a second which is about 100 times NTLs top package and 10 times the capable speed of the modem.
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09-12-2003, 17:29
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Re: is it going to get better??
Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:28:09 UTC
1st 128K took 1823 ms = 71899 Bytes/sec = approx 598 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1982 ms = 66131 Bytes/sec = approx 550 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1663 ms = 78817 Bytes/sec = approx 656 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1853 ms = 70735 Bytes/sec = approx 589 kbits/sec
the bounce seems to have steadied
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09-12-2003, 19:47
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Re: is it going to get better??
why is it that when ever i have a moan about ntl my connection suddenly becomes rock solid.
it makes me look
still thanks for all the help, its nice to know that i can get it without waiting on the phone for an hour
:p
salem
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09-12-2003, 21:34
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Re: is it going to get better??
I wish ppl would learn the difference between kilobit and kilobyte acronyms.
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there are 8 bits in a byte, therefore giving you 75 kilobits per second.
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WTF? I think you mean 75 kilobytes per second.
Please use the correct terms, nearly everyone says stuff like, I'm only getting 60kbps, and I pay for 600..
K should be capital.
small b means bits, capital B means bytes.
The speed rating is 600Kbps. (Kilobits per second.) And you will get a maximum of 75KBps. (Kilobytes per second) Actual content download speed will be lower due to TCP packet overhead.
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10-12-2003, 09:57
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Re: is it going to get better??
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Originally Posted by Nutty
I wish ppl would learn the difference between kilobit and kilobyte acronyms.
WTF? I think you mean 75 kilobytes per second.
Please use the correct terms, nearly everyone says stuff like, I'm only getting 60kbps, and I pay for 600..
K should be capital.
small b means bits, capital B means bytes.
The speed rating is 600Kbps. (Kilobits per second.) And you will get a maximum of 75KBps. (Kilobytes per second) Actual content download speed will be lower due to TCP packet overhead.
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.... and here endeth the lesson
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12-12-2003, 15:01
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Re: is it going to get better??
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Originally Posted by 2||Para
Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:28:09 UTC
1st 128K took 1823 ms = 71899 Bytes/sec = approx 598 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1982 ms = 66131 Bytes/sec = approx 550 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1663 ms = 78817 Bytes/sec = approx 656 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1853 ms = 70735 Bytes/sec = approx 589 kbits/sec
the bounce seems to have steadied
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seems so - those figures look ok for a 600Kbps (75KBps  ) service.
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