extradition without evidence-uncle sam wants you!

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Originally Posted by BBKing

Unless you're blind or ignorant and don't realise who he is, ask yourself why I'd have a picture and quotation from one of the Founding Fathers of the USA on my profile. Once you've explained how that fits into your erroneous image of me as a 'US Basher' you can rejoin the debate.

Out of all the countries we have identical extradition treaties with, since 1991, how many have you raised threads about complaining that British citizens can be extradited to them without prima facie?
I certainly don't remember you ever creating a thread about how terrible it is that British citizens can be extradited to Turkey, or South Africa, or Russia without proof of a crime being committed.

[punky]

Originally Posted by BBKing

Unless you're blind or ignorant and don't realise who he is, ask yourself why I'd have a picture and quotation from one of the Founding Fathers of the USA on my profile. Once you've explained how that fits into your erroneous image of me as a 'US Basher' you can rejoin the debate.

I must admit when you changed your sig, it did suprise me a bit... Seemed to be contrary to the usual theme of your posts...

Still, the point still stands. The US isn't the only country who gets this privlege, yet its the only one that gets criticised.

I'll stand up and say I'll abuse the US.

The US is proving that its President is a war monger, he has and will destabalise any peace we have.
American Politics is corrupt, they have little regard for the well being of prisoners, guantanamo bay proves that.

Last time I was there I got sick of Americans pretending to be Irish talking about the glorious cause and claiming the IRA were not terrorists, funny how things changed post 9/11 isnt it.
America is flexing its muscles and the sooner its put back into its place and Europe turns on it the better.

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Originally Posted by timewarrior2001

America is flexing its muscles and the sooner its put back into its place and Europe turns on it the better.

What place is that?
For the past 50 years or so its place has been as a superpower....

[Russ]

I think he means it need to be put back in it's place as a country, not unelected rulers of the world.

Oh I'm all for bashing the Yanks. Well, not the people - I don't really know many of them. But I see the country as no more than a world super-bully. America does what America wants and Britian, being the jolly-good sports that we are, allow them where possible and what do we get in return? I'll tell you what we get in return...

Ever seen one of those documentary about the Great White Shark which choses a tiny fish to swim with? The smaller creature nibbles all the parasites off the shark's body, even going in to it's mouth and eating all the bits of leftover food from between the bigger creature's teeth. While this happens, the shark gets a small yet insignificant 'friend' yet owes it no real loyalty - it gives the fish it's protection yet all the GWS needs to do is hiccup and it has swallowed the fish and it's gone forever, only to find a line of similar smaller fish queing up to take their unfortunate predessessor's place.

As I said, I have nothing real against American people - but their country's politics and foreign policy is awful. The US needs to be reminded that it does NOT own the world - it is just ONE (albeit very large) country in a global community of others. The thing is it will never be reminded - any country or continents seen to stand up to America in such away will be seen as a threat (ie the USSR before the cold war ended) and you can be sure that the missles will be launched.

All just my opinion you understand - I don't claim any of this to be concrete fact.