ITV1+1 For Legal Reasons This Program cannot be shown - Page 2

mersey70 · 16-01-2011, 17:57

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Originally Posted by Mnemnoch

Noticed on the EPG that (sky) was written after the program name, maybe only sky subscribers were able to view it.

Ours says Gra/Bdr whch I assume indicates the Granada/Border feed followed by Sky. Maybe they are using the same feed as Sky as I read it says the same on their EPG.

The programmes are not available on Sky, Freesat or Freeview either.

wwe · 16-01-2011, 22:39

yer i notice this as well i was flicking trough 1 of the nights this week it was about 2 in the morning and it said this.

ive never seen this message befor on any tv channel.

nomadking · 16-01-2011, 23:17

The first step would be for the EPG to correctly reflect this situation, in order to avoid the strong possibility of people planning to view/record the +1 channel and finding the recording not there.

royaltiger · 17-01-2011, 12:51

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Originally Posted by GordonD

That only happens on BBC One HD, not BBC HD, and only when local news is on as BBC One HD isn't regional unlike it's SD counterpart.

Sorry did mean BBC one HD of coarse, forgot all about BBCHD.

David H · 16-10-2013, 00:17

I got it for the first time today on ITV +1 at half time in the football before and after the ads on Freeview, which has already been paid for by our TV licence thank you very much, so they don't really have the authority to do such obnoxious things to their paying customers. Did anyone else get it tonight or know why it happened at all?

theone2k10 · 16-10-2013, 00:45

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Originally Posted by David H

I got it for the first time today on ITV +1 at half time in the football before and after the ads on Freeview, which has already been paid for by our TV licence thank you very much, so they don't really have the authority to do such obnoxious things to their paying customers. Did anyone else get it tonight or know why it happened at all?

Except that ITV is funded by adverts not the TV License. TV license funds the BBC.

David H · 16-10-2013, 01:29

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Originally Posted by theone2k10

Except that ITV is funded by adverts not the TV License. TV license funds the BBC.

technically yes, but try watching it without one.

ocav · 16-10-2013, 01:37

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Originally Posted by David H

technically yes, but try watching it without one.

You would be breaking the law. None of the funds go to ITV.

Qtx · 16-10-2013, 02:20

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Originally Posted by David H

technically yes, but try watching it without one.

Just watch it on catchup, no licence needed.

MutleyF · 16-10-2013, 08:51

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Originally Posted by Qtx

Just watch it on catchup, no licence needed.

From the TV Licencing Website
Exception: If you only watch catch-up services online, then you don’t need a licence. For example, you don’t need one to use BBC iPlayer, or ITV player, to catch up on programmes after they have been shown on TV.

The key word here is "online" only, so not through Sky box or Virgin etc

Qtx · 16-10-2013, 12:40

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Originally Posted by MutleyF

From the TV Licencing Website
Exception: If you only watch catch-up services online, then you don’t need a licence. For example, you don’t need one to use BBC iPlayer, or ITV player, to catch up on programmes after they have been shown on TV.

The key word here is "online" only, so not through Sky box or Virgin etc

Their website is misleading and wrong. You only legally need a tv license to watch or record a programme as it is being broadcast. So streaming online or through a box is irrelevant. The problem is even though this is the case, if you told them that you only watch catchup through the various types of box they are likely not to believe you. Legally it is ok though

Doug P · 16-10-2013, 12:48

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Originally Posted by David H

I got it for the first time today on ITV +1 at half time in the football before and after the ads on Freeview, which has already been paid for by our TV licence thank you very much, so they don't really have the authority to do such obnoxious things to their paying customers. Did anyone else get it tonight or know why it happened at all?

Why is this obnoxious? Is it not merely the betting odds ads which are useless and unavailable one hour after they were shown as the live game was over....

Stuart · 16-10-2013, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Qtx

Their website is misleading and wrong. You only legally need a tv license to watch or record a programme as it is being broadcast. So streaming online or through a box is irrelevant. The problem is even though this is the case, if you told them that you only watch catchup through the various types of box they are likely not to believe you. Legally it is ok though

I believe they will also say you need a TV licence if you own a device that is capable of receiving a colour TV broadcast. As a Cable or Satellite TV box would be. At the very least, with a Cable TV box and an active subscription it would be extremely difficult to prove you didn't watch live TV. After all, it's not just a case of detuning the box or cutting something inside to prevent reception.

OLD BOY · 16-10-2013, 14:38

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Originally Posted by Stuart

I believe they will also say you need a TV licence if you own a device that is capable of receiving a colour TV broadcast. As a Cable or Satellite TV box would be. At the very least, with a Cable TV box and an active subscription it would be extremely difficult to prove you didn't watch live TV. After all, it's not just a case of detuning the box or cutting something inside to prevent reception.

Isn't it for the Beeb to prove that you did watch live TV, not for the viewer to prove he didn't? If you have a good explanation that they cannot disprove, surely the ball is in their court?

Qtx · 16-10-2013, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Stuart

I believe they will also say you need a TV licence if you own a device that is capable of receiving a colour TV broadcast. As a Cable or Satellite TV box would be. At the very least, with a Cable TV box and an active subscription it would be extremely difficult to prove you didn't watch live TV. After all, it's not just a case of detuning the box or cutting something inside to prevent reception.

If you have a tv subscription then it would be hard to prove you don't watch tv, even if you only use it to listen to the radio channels and stream catchup tv. It's no easier to prove you only watch catchup even without a subscription though. I got my parents a little box that just streams content like the catchup, which has no tuner so in theory a better scenario than the cable/sat box yet at the same time the licence lot will try and say you have a tv connected and that tv can receive it.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Isn't it for the Beeb to prove that you did watch live TV, not for the viewer to prove he didn't? If you have a good explanation that they cannot disprove, surely the ball is in their court?

It is. You don't have to talk to the tv licence guys at all, or let them in your house or enter in to any correspondence with them. If they see a flashing light from your property, they have to prove it was live tv rather than a DVD or catchup tv. They have never convicted anyone of dodging or not paying the tv licence based on detector van evidence, because they don't use them.

Even if you only watch catchup or dvd's etc, they will still harass you. If you don't talk to them at all, you save yourself the hassle they will give you for whatever you say.