Multiple Teen Abortions - Page 2

Stephen · 26-10-2010, 09:43

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I don't think that's the case. I think teenage girls are wanting and actually having sex at an earlier age than they used to.

I think its more to do with peer pressure Gary, than 'wanting' to. Its also nothing new than teens are doing the deed around 12-15 yrs thats been happening for a very long time.

Gary L · 26-10-2010, 09:49

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I think its more to do with peer pressure Gary, than 'wanting' to. Its also nothing new than teens are doing the deed around 12-15 yrs thats been happening for a very long time.

I know a lot of it is peer pressure. but I personally think they also want to more than they/we used to.
I'm saying they think it's not as 'taboo' as it used to be, and are more inclined to have sex without thinking whether they should or shouldn't.

Stephen · 26-10-2010, 09:57

Well from what I remember it was never really taboo when I was that age. Maybe for the adults but never the actual teens.

Honestly I don't know what you are thinking but teens always have and always will have underage sex. Its mostly about peer pressure nothing else at all Gary.

It simply gets reported in the press more now than it ever used to.

Gary L · 26-10-2010, 10:02

Ok, you're right and I'm wrong.

**Maggy** · 26-10-2010, 10:02

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I don't think that's the case. I think teenage girls are wanting and actually having sex at an earlier age than they used to.

I'm afraid you are right but not in greater numbers.It's still rarer than you might suppose especially at 12/13.

punky · 26-10-2010, 10:11

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what would you do, then?

It is a balance. And I'm not advocating anything like you are using to pretend I am.

Kids needed to learn that actions have consequences. Nowadays they are taught that it doesn't matter what they do, someone will sort it out for them at everyone elses expense. How does that teach people to become responsible adults? The balance has swung too much in the wrong direction.

I am not Victorian but I'm am sick of working hard just to subsidize the (rapidly increasing group of) feckless idiots of this country.

If these people won't take any responsibility for their own actions and their equally feckless parents won't either then the government needs to step in. But it will never happen because we are far too wet as a country and there will always be a few hard working idiots like me to bankroll them.

**Hugh** · 26-10-2010, 10:43

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Ok, you're right and I'm wrong.

People are allowed to have differing viewpoints, Gary - it's not about right or wrong, just differing views on a situation.

That is one of the points of a forum, imho, allowing people to air their views and be challenged on them.

Anyhoo, back to the topic - I remember 12-15 year olds being "at it" when I was that age, and my mum used to tell me about "the naughty girls" who used to go "visit their aunts" for six months when she was at school, so that leads me to believe young teenage pregnancies are nothing new; they were just kept out of sight.....

Gary L · 26-10-2010, 10:51

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

I'm afraid you are right but not in greater numbers.It's still rarer than you might suppose especially at 12/13.

Agreed. and as I said I think it's more to do with attitudes now. you have girls openly asking for sex from older men. you have teens giving sex to older men. you have teens posting media of themselves on the internet.

that in itself is the attitude they have when it comes to sex. and the attitudes of having abortions goes with it.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

People are allowed to have differing viewpoints, Gary - it's not about right or wrong, just differing views on a situation.

That is one of the points of a forum, imho, allowing people to air their views and be challenged on them.

Good. maybe Stephen will take note

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Anyhoo, back to the topic - I remember 12-15 year olds being "at it" when I was that age, and my mum used to tell me about "the naughty girls" who used to go "visit their aunts" for six months when she was at school, so that leads me to believe young teenage pregnancies are nothing new; they were just kept out of sight.....

Yes. but we're not saying it never happened. infact we could say that it's happening at an even earlier age.

26-10-2010, 10:52

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Originally Posted by punky

I am not Victorian but I'm am sick of working hard just to subsidize the (rapidly increasing group of) feckless idiots of this country.

If these people won't take any responsibility for their own actions and their equally feckless parents won't either then the government needs to step in. But it will never happen because we are far too wet as a country and there will always be a few hard working idiots like me to bankroll them.

This.

The point I was making is that if they are thick enough to get pregnant once and have an abortion, you would hope that they would learn from it. To be even thicker to go and do it again they clearly have not learnt anything so are probably not bright enough to be raising kids in the first place and will likely become a drain on society.

May as well nip it in the bud for long term savings, but as Punky quite rightly pointed out, we are too wet as a country to do anything meaningful about it other than blow hot air.

**Hugh** · 26-10-2010, 10:54

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Yes. but we're not saying it never happened. infact we could say that it's happening at an even earlier age.

We could, but we're not.....

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Originally Posted by Tuftus

This.

The point I was making is that if they are thick enough to get pregnant once and have an abortion, you would hope that they would learn from it. To be even thicker to go and do it again they clearly have not learnt anything so are probably not bright enough to be raising kids in the first place and will likely become a drain on society.

May as well nip it in the bud for long term savings, but as Punky quite rightly pointed out, we are too wet as a country to do anything meaningful about it other than blow hot air.

Well, compulsory sterilisation does have a bad reputation and history.....

26-10-2010, 11:02

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Well, compulsory sterilisation does have a bad reputation and history.....

Ahh well, it was just an idea.

danielf · 26-10-2010, 11:20

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

What about a compulsary long lasting contraception implant? Only removable when you can demonstate that you can finance the bringing of another baby into the world. Something I've advocated for a long time even on a wider scale.

People in the UK have the right to not have their body interfered with against their will. I don't think we want to start tampering with that right in any but the most extreme cases.

**Maggy** · 26-10-2010, 11:21

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

What about a compulsary long lasting contraception implant? Only removable when you can demonstate that you can finance the bringing of another baby into the world. Something I've advocated for a long time even on a wider scale.

Oh I can hear the screams of Abuse of Human Rights from the Guardian already at that idea...

Jimmy-J · 26-10-2010, 11:26

Not much to say, apart from, such is life.

punky · 26-10-2010, 11:59

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Originally Posted by Hugh

We could, but we're not.....

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Well, compulsory sterilisation does have a bad reputation and history.....

BTW I'm not suggesting anything that draconian but how about if they pay back the cost of their fecklessness via a tax on their benefits or if they get a job like student loans. Then the debt can be written off if they are well behaved for x years or if they complete y hours of community service. Hit them where it hurts. When they have to decide between alcohol, fags and food, maybe then they'll understand.

These people act like kids so you have to treat them like one.

It is not just about my taxes going to waste. If you free up the resources squandered by the feckless it frees it up for others that really do need it.