How should offenders pay ?

[Lew]

Originally Posted by PeteL

all criminal sentences should be eye for an eye when proven beyond a doubt e.g. kill and be killed unfair how the tax payer currently foots the bill for the living of about 90k **** bags

So you want us to follow the Saudis' example?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Derek

Well over half of the repeat 'customers' I deal with have motability cars of some description and with quite a few of them end up with more disposable income each month than I do and that's before the profits from dealing and thievery are taken into account.

Yet when they end up in court fines are set at maybe two pounds a week and then never get paid.

I would never have guessed that, unless they are just milking the system of course for 'bad backs' and depression, that's all to guessable

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Originally Posted by PeteL

all criminal sentences should be eye for an eye when proven beyond a doubt e.g. kill and be killed unfair how the tax payer currently foots the bill for the living of about 90k **** bags

How do you prove it beyond doubt? We never used to prove anything beyond doubt and still don't today, fact is having a death penalty never stopped anyone from killing, hell having a death penalty never even used to stop people from nicking a loaf of bread...

[Ramrod]

Litter needs picking up, graffiti needs cleaning. Put them to work, unpaid.

there seems to be some success with this scheme in worcester ,however i have doubts as to how long lasting it would be as these type of schemes are usually the first to go when cutbacks are needed

[rogerdraig]

Get rid of fines and replace with comunity work of various types be it digging gardens for people if fit enough to doing paper work ( belive me i run a small charity making some one fill out all the forms i have to do to get grants etc could easily class as punishment they are a nightmare ) for those less able

with the option if they wish to pay their way out of the work if they so wish if you really want money ( though i see that as the easier option lol )

[tammac]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Litter needs picking up, graffiti needs cleaning. Put them to work, unpaid.

well, quite (right) but does that mean we put the people who do these jobs on the dole? some really deep thinking involved, or should we all work for nothing?with some exceptions,(bankers, politicians,) for example.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by tammac

well, quite (right) but does that mean we put the people who do these jobs on the dole? some really deep thinking involved, or should we all work for nothing?with some exceptions,(bankers, politicians,) for example.

If you can put your childish hatred for bankers to one side for just a moment you might just realise that whilst some people are currently employed in street cleaning and other jobs that can be done with minimal training there could be a lot more done and if people who are currently not working but able to they could be used to supplement and not replace those doing the job.

Originally Posted by tammac

well, quite (right) but does that mean we put the people who do these jobs on the dole? some really deep thinking involved, or should we all work for nothing?with some exceptions,(bankers, politicians,) for example.

I admire the way you manage to turn every single thread you comment in into an attack on bankers and politicians now lets see if we can devote the same energies to contributing a meaningful point on the subject at hand

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by tammac

well, quite (right) but does that mean we put the people who do these jobs on the dole?

Nope, judging by the state of the UKs streets, they could use the extra help.

[SMG]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Litter needs picking up, graffiti needs cleaning. Put them to work, unpaid.

Thats the right approach. Pink overalls, brush & shovel, get sweating.
Its called payback.

[PeteLockwood]

Originally Posted by Lew

So you want us to follow the Saudis' example?

yes. every action has a reaction.

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Litter needs picking up, graffiti needs cleaning. Put them to work, unpaid.

NO, i would prefer the honest hard working people that CURRENTLY DO THAT JOB remain.

every con should repay every pay they cos tthe tax payer during there incarceration any further offences will be met with severe consequences, yes just like the saudis

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

How do you prove it beyond doubt? We never used to prove anything beyond doubt and still don't today, fact is having a death penalty never stopped anyone from killing, hell having a death penalty never even used to stop people from nicking a loaf of bread...

errrr, oj ?

Originally Posted by PeteL

NO, i would prefer the honest hard working people that CURRENTLY DO THAT JOB remain.

who said that they need to lose their jobs ,it doesn't happen now and won't in the future
All that would happen is that community service would used to suplement current jobs and in some cases do the work that isn't currently being done because of cost issues

[colin25]

castration...i know I have said it before...but..got to admit..it would make them think twice

I know..what about the women?..less guys in jail..more room for the women

And..might even be a popular tv series in it..cell block VIII

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by SMG

Thats the right approach. Pink overalls, brush & shovel, get sweating.
Its called payback.

Damn right.....and we get a more pleasant country to live in.

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Originally Posted by PeteL

NO, i would prefer the honest hard working people that CURRENTLY DO THAT JOB remain.

....and they could. There is more litter on our streets than they can deal with....

every con should repay every pay they cos tthe tax payer during there incarceration any further offences will be met with severe consequences, yes just like the saudis

Not sure I understand you there m8....

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by PeteL

errrr, oj ?

Was found not guilty of murder...