Smacking ban in schools loophole

Originally Posted by Gary L

Do the parents have any say or rights if their child is a victim of this loophole?

Yes - they can remove them from the educational establishment (and from their relatives homes, as it is the same "loophole" that covers both areas).

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

No, the fact that it also applies to Christian Sunday Schools, probably Jewish part-time education facilities, and the chances that you and the Daily Mail have focused on the Muslim aspect.

You're not reading the thread properly

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Originally Posted by martyh

but the loophole isn't just for muslims is it ,so it isn't "1 law for us ,but not for others " it's the same law for everyone

I know that. why do you think I put others and not Muslims?
I think the Daily Mail have used the Muslim word as they are the majority that this affects the most.

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Yes - they can remove them from the educational establishment (and from their relatives homes, as it is the same "loophole" that covers both areas).

But the member of staff or parent cannot be held accountable for their actions? they are effectively covered by law?

Originally Posted by Gary L

You're not reading the thread properly

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I know that. why do you think I put others and not Muslims?
I think the Daily Mail have used the Muslim word as they are the majority that this affects the most.

so who are the "others" that this law doesn't apply to but we have to abide by ?


are we discussing the fact that this loophole exists at all or the fact that muslims might/might not be smacking children at a specific type of school ?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

so who are the "others" that this law doesn't apply to but we have to abide by ?

The others are those that are allowed to 'smack' as opposed to the others that are not ?

are we discussing the fact that this loophole exists at all or the fact that muslims might/might not be smacking children at a specific type of school ?

Anyone you want. we can debate either.

I love the sound of "back-pedalling" in a thread.....

Your original quotes from the Daily Mail highlighted this supposed issue solely in relation to Muslims.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Your original quotes from the Daily Mail highlighted this supposed issue solely in relation to Muslims.

That's probably due to the fact that that's what they published.
what's the point of being PC and missing it all out and going for the Christians?

The others are those that are allowed to 'smack' as opposed to the others that are not ?

but we've already established that ALL schools with pupils who attend under a certain amount of hours are allowed to smack NOT just muslim so there are no "others"

Anyone you want. we can debate either.

then it shouldn't be allowed in ANY school ,the only people allowed to smack children should the parents if they choose to adopt that stance

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by martyh

but the loophole isn't just for muslims is it ,so it isn't "1 law for us ,but not for others " it's the same law for everyone

And with that true comment it's time to change the title

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

but we've already established that ALL schools with pupils who attend under a certain amount of hours are allowed to smack NOT just muslim so there are no "others"

Yes. I remember you asking.

then it shouldn't be allowed in ANY school ,the only people allowed to smack children should the parents if they choose to adopt that stance

Then should we close this loophole?

Originally Posted by Gary L

Yes. I remember you asking.



Then should we close this loophole?

refer to my above post

And with that true comment it's time to change the title

but now it aint got no muslims in it

Originally Posted by Gary L

That's probably due to the fact that that's what they published.
what's the point of being PC and missing it all out and going for the Christians?

Gary, it's not being PC to include all the facts (even the ones you don't like).

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

refer to my above post

Conga rats. we have 1 person that has decided between for and against. if only politics was this easy

but now it aint got no muslims in it

It never did have any muslims in it

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Gary, it's not being PC to include all the facts (even the ones you don't like).

Sorry. from now on I'll quote the whole lot. it will save me from being accused of being biased, but might get me being told off for not quoting a little bit and a link for the rest

[punky]

Whilst everyone is falling over themselves to try and extricate the I word from this thread... Anyone actually know why there is an exemption in the first place?

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Sorry. from now on I'll quote the whole lot. it will save me from being accused of being biased, but might get me being told off for not quoting a little bit and a link for the rest

The original title is all what was needed to see that you are biased and selectively pulled up on the muslim issue instead of the whole article.

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Originally Posted by punky

Whilst everyone is falling over themselves to try and extricate the I word from this thread... Anyone actually know why there is an exemption in the first place?

Trust Punky to do one of the first genuine questions in this thread. I personally have no idea as to why the exemption..

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by punky

Whilst everyone is falling over themselves to try and extricate the I word from this thread... Anyone actually know why there is an exemption in the first place?

Good point. after all a school is a school. no matter how many hours you attend it.